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Yeah, Stroman in NY is a no-go.....even worse than Snell in NY. And obviously Montgomery wants NOTHING to do with the Yankees, and 85-90% ends up back in Texas if the money is remotely competitive.

The more you try to figure out how to complete these trades for Cease, and ONLY names I can think of that might have any value to other teams right now are a 100% healthy Santos and Kopech, just because there's always a pitching coach out there who believes he can be "fixed" with all of his so-called untapped potential. And that his psychological side of pitching will take care of the physical/mechanics/control issues. Not unlike someone like Manoah with the Blue Jays, although I wouldn't really want either if I was a playoff contender unless I was the Dodgers or Braves and had very little to lose trying them out because both teams should cruise to division wins without much effort.

Then the Blue Jays are going to have one last gasp before their window with Guerrero closes as well...lots to consider. Replacing an entire outfield is pretty much the exact same challenge the White Sox have/face when they trade Robert. It's easy to project the infield (Henderson, Holliday, Westburg, Rutschman/Basallo, 1B let's say Mayo or Kjerstad...the best of those two in terms of outfield defense shifting likely to RF because of arm respective strength/s, maybe even Basallo like Melendez's shift for the Royals and Kjerstad in LF with a rotating DH. You could stick Kjerstad in LF, but that's setting you up for some lousy defense and then CF is obviously the hardest position to fill and they're unlikely to be in a position to gamble on Mullins the second half of his career at the going FA/extension rates. (Also will end up dumping O'Hearn and Mountcastle for younger players.) Then you have questions with 3/5ths of your starting rotation, health and the bullpen enigma that will certainly pop up for Baltimore just like it did the Phillies in the playoffs. Very little serious starting pitching depth, which is the kiss of death for most mid market teams when 1-2 key guys go down and there are no quality replacements. They might even be worried about Cease having a second TJ with his velocity and slider reliance, and then the 1.5 MPH decline in FB velocity or whatever it is. Maybe if Dylan's velo pops back in ST with all the trade rumors swirling around him and as a competitor being desperate for a trade, but that also puts him at additional risk of getting injured coming out of the dead arm period and trying to show off for the scouts in late February and early March.

If you look at the Teoscar deal...the Ms and Jays were in a similar position to where Baltimore is heading with three of their veterans. Nice asset to have in Santander but perhaps not at that price point. Especially the O's with their limited payroll flexibility, betting on each stud prospect hitting the ground running and cheaply replacing the veterans.

Was he also a Skull at Yale lol? And aren't you so excited MLB.com article already predicted three WS appearances over the next six years for Balt?

Somehow I doubt Boras is panicking, holding Snell Montgomery Cease Robert...Stroman too? He already knows neither of the Sox players will even get legitimate extension offers, so anywhere that those guys will get more national games and playoff exposure now works for him.

Did Balta or ChatGPT write this?

A certain someone will get himself fired right out of the gate if he botches both Getz and Robert. Of course, JR will double down out of stubborness to prove he was right all along and that Getzie will someday win AL Executive of the Year like Hahn.

Dodgers must be looking to flip Ferris for Joey Ortiz, move Betts back to RF...lol.

Orioles’ fans are going to argue 7 years of Holliday is more valuable than 6 of Robert and Cease…

Baumeister or Baumann?

Cease Robert Kopech Santos for ... Mullins (flipped eventually) Mayo Basallo Kjerstad Westburg and two best O's minor league pitchers. Orioles become immediate World Series favorites. White Sox mitigate risk of Cease/Robert blowing up before they can be traded...especially Cease with a potential second TJ and with just two years remaining on his deal. This might be one case where they can open up more O's prospects than they could with one alone...90 times out of 100 you would prefer to trade Robert and Cease individually. Or you can substitute Holliday for Mayo Basallo and KJERSTAD. Personally, I do think it would be safer to take those three guys over one Holliday...there would be just as many if not more scouts arguing the value of seven years of one Holliday vs. the much higher bust potential of the Santos provides needed insurance for Kimbrel.

No concerns over all the issues Bienemy has had in WASH? Assuming the connection is transforming Williams into another version of Mahomes in KC?

Orioles predicted for three of next World Series.... https://www.mlb.com/news/predicting-world-series-winners-through-2033 This can't possibly backfire. "Chicago's reported demand is high. ESPN's Jesse Rogers wrote Wednesday that the club is looking for multiple high-end prospects and some "fill-ins" in return. Rogers listed the Yankees, Cubs and Reds as three teams that could pry Cease away from the Windy City, and Rosenthal included the Red Sox, Giants and Rangers among the clubs most in need of starting pitching."

Getz Tree=1 Hahn/KW= -8

Didn't he somehow get involved with the Clevinger social media situation too...besides the threat to quit/retire when he was in the minors?

Yeah...was off by one year. 3 1/2 years of .900 OPS (first half 2024) remaining and GG defending Robert wouldn't be much more than a 10-15% discount compared to Soto's initial trade value in summer 2022.

Santander Mullins Basallo and Kjerstad for those pieces...would be more like it.

If you took Mullins out of it...they wouldn't even assume the contracts on Hays Mountcastle and Urias if you gave them away with no talent leaving SD. Zero need for Urias. The other guys you could find a 1B DH corner guy on the FA market...and/or trade without giving up a single Top 6 prospect in the Padres' system. They would much rather have Mateo for PR and defense. That would embarrass Preller because he used to be SD property.

It was very clearly spent, just on the wrong veterans. Keuchel, Grandal, Lynn, Benintendi, Kimbrel/Pollock, Hendriks and finally Ohtani's new best Dodger friend and acclaimed author/TLR favorite.

Obviously had a much longer history/connection with the Mariners. Parts of three seasons, and it was where he kicked off his MLB career. And the writing was already pretty much on the wall with Bannister brought in and Katz retained. Needed that Royals' connection to secure his position and/or a pay rise. It was a very heartwarming story while it lasted with the Sox.

Sure, WAY too right-handed, and Grandal's already out. Moncada will soon be next. Sheets SHOULD be out of the picture but god knows what becomes of him this year. Benintendi also doesn't have enough pop to matter all that much on the power side of things. At best a 10-15 homer guy at this point in his career, and maybe still in single figures like 2023.

Basallo, Mayo, Kjerstad, Westburg and/or pitching prospect...that's going to be the ask. No way they would risk trading Holliday, and getting just ONE player back for Robert still doesn't move the meter enough....have to get at least 2-3 guys out of it that become at the very least "well above average" (2.5-3 fWAR and up) major league regulars.

Essentially 2 1/2 good years counting his breakout minor league season...where he jumped across multiple levels in one single year and exploded on the scene as a prospect.

That's truly shocking. Even the Pirates are willing to invest more into their future/s than the White Sox at this point. Granted, everyone knew this "recoup last year's lost profits year" was coming down the pike. And the White Sox rebuild potentially got lengthened out even more with the news that Robert will now be getting traded earlier than expected with Boras lurking at the end of the rainbow.