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on line info isnt gonna tell me why you think her visions were anti -semetic...is it because her vision were so brutal in regaurds to the crowd chanting for jesus death being depicted as jewish???...thats what i am guessing..but i cant read your mind... i just dont understand the hatred for this man.. the point that i found interesting in pro israeli stance is that you felt you had to distinguish it from being liberal..like you are saying most liberal are anti semites or at best pro muslim.. you seem to be worried about fundemental christians using this to forward anti semitism but most fundemental christians would consider themselves conservative (not all of course)...has the tide changed so to speak??.....+..but i guess after this movie opens we will see how many , if any , problems arise...should be interesting to see just how far we have come as a society in respecting different religous views..

they could be looking for debate..but then some also take exception to students challening their perceived authority..when that happens you might as well drop the class... i guess it depends on why you are in college for...lifelong college students should argue away..those looking to get that degree and get out so they can move on with their lives would probably do well to take chisoxfan's advice...

funny they list any jazz guitarists..guys like pat metheny would blow 90% of that list away as far as technical ability

jim maybe that was from a later interview...but thats what was on NBC news last night..the quotes they were attributing to him..i thought thats the interview you were talking about...maybe he felt the need to clarify his position...

brando..read through you response to me.. its filled with the same kind of hate for gibson and others that you so staunchly object too..many people love to point the faults in others they hate so much about themselves.. i find this statement to be quite interesting.."i am a liberal yet pro israel"....why do feel you have to qualify being liberal with not being against israel???..which groups are now persecuting the jews??... im not even that big of a fan of mel gibson..i hated the mad max and leathal weapon movies..i never gave him a 2nd thought until braveheart came out...but i find myself defending him like he's my best friend because of what i feel are unwarranted and unjust attacks against his character... as for doing my own research ..youre the one that called her all kinds of names..said she was anti-semite..you must know what she said , right...you wouldnt call her an anti-semite without proof....if youre gonna label someone you should bring some facts to back it up..how hard is it to type out a few lines of what you read??...seems like youre sidestepping the issue to me..

dont forget larry carlton ..he did a lot fo work with steely dan..

1549 my son has a history teacher that, while not as bad as your spanish teacher does push her politcal views down her students throats...this is in 8th grade..ive talked to her once and asked her to please tone it down but to no avail...so we do our share of deprogramming

indians gm: lou , how'd you like to manage the cleveland indians this year lou brown: oh i dont know charlie , i got a guy on the other line waiting for a set of 4 whitewalls , ill have to call you back" lou brown: the press in this town thinks we'd do everybody a big favor if we just went out back and shot ourselves major league had some great dialogue

brando...here is part of a letter to the editor of the trib from a respected rabbi...his take on mel gibson ...as I have watched him, I have come to the conclusion that he is not an anti-Semite at all. He is simply a believer in the fundamentals of the Gospels as he understands them. He is a man with a mission to spread what he believes to be the truth about the events of that day but, perhaps even more important, to spread the truth about belief in a power higher than ourselves. He places no blame on the Jewish people of today and said that such an attitude would be completely un-Christian. I perceive that he is a man of complete faith who wants to transmit those beliefs to his fellow man. What I have heard is a man of faith talk about theological issues of a God-centered world, a God who really controls the world, and about the ultimate value of spirituality versus materialism. Here is a man who acknowledged that he has been handed on a platter all the material goods that any man could ever want. And he imbibed with complete gusto and abandon. Yet having all of that, he realized that he was incomplete and that the ultimate goal of man is the spiritualism that seeks unity with God. It is this that motivated him to spend $25 million of his own money on producing this movie. To be sure, Gibson's theology is not Jewish theology. The two are incompatible, at least from a Jewish perspective. But his belief about man's importance relative to God is almost identical with Judaism's. So instead of condemning his acts, I now applaud his motivations as having far more relevance. All people of faith would do well to take a lesson for our own lives as to what is really important and what is not.

the sox are kinda like having a little brother...we can kick the crap out of our little brother..but nobody else better

id venture to guess that what he is saying is stewart is such a bad pitcher that if he wins the last spot then all the other pitchers that were ahead of him must have fallen on their face...which i why i guess we would be in trouble

that would be 1983...started out 16-24 and went on to win 99 games.. if this team starts out 16-24 it will be a ghost town on the south side

i think its funny democrats keep whinning about nader stealing the '00 election from gore...thats a bunch of bull...the people who voted for nader voted for him because they didnt feel either major party candidate offer them a viable option...so what makes the democrats think gore was entitled to those votes...he didnt earn them or those people would have voted for him its the same with republicans in '92 when they say perot cost GHW the election...i voted for perot and i did so because neither candidate from the major parties appealed to me...neither main candidate earned my vote..

thats part of student newspapers...you think at berkeley if GW was gonna speak there that their student newspaper wouldnt print something that attacked him and made him or his cause look bad???....that all comes with free speech... besides...a nice young liberal thinking woman like yourself doesnt ends up at a conservative lutheran school by accident...youre just like me...you like being in the minority..you like the attention...when i was living in oregon i used to love when i had to go to university of oregon for my job...i used to fix the copier at the school newspaper..i used to get into some serious arguements with those left over hippies!!!.. so i know

i only quoted what i remember word from word from what gibson said...he did say that he believes 6 million jews died in the holocust..maybe more...i just didnt remember his exact words.. youre right, i dont know mel gibson..but neither do you and yet youre calling him all kinds of vile crap...kinda ruins youre credibility , dont you think???..id rather be hoodwinked by somebody because i thought they were a good person and was proven wrong then to smeer a good man's name... and i am familiar with the church he is part of..i was baptized into that church..what it is is the roman catholic church prior to 1966...anyone baptized in the catholic church prior to 66 was part of it too...i went to church here in itasca that was in latin until i was about 8 years old...he is not part of some crazy cult..its just the roman catholic church teachings prior to '66...its no different then the conservative baptists breaking away from the americam baptist church because they thought the teaching were adapting too much to modern times...im sure every denomination has faced these same questions and have had groups that didnt go along with the changes and formed their own offshoot...because they have decided not to change with the times doesnt make them cults...some people need a sense of tradition in their lives... again..give me an example of , as you call her " Krazyb****facestein" being anti -semetic....i still havent seen anyone give me an example and jewish leaders that have seen the movie have said that the movie itself is not anti -semetic nor do they believe gibson is....what they are concered about is christians taking the wrong message and twisting to promote hatred of jews... its funny , jewish leaders arnt condemning gibson...but everyone else with an agenda seems to be

danny wright and jason grilli battle it out for the 5 spot rauch has an outside shot cotts and diaz probably need more seasoning..but anything is possible if josh stewart is 100% he is as good a bet as any.. so basically..i have no clue bad thing is trying to pitch for a spot in the rotation doesnt work in arizona...its a place to work the kinks out and get ready for the season...the climate is so different there than it is in chicago that you really cant tell who is doing what..remember mike porzio??...a good spring in the desert just isnt a good indicator

most of the time it would be considered a good thing to get your games against a powerhouse like the yanks out of the way early...but since winning early on and attendance are tied together this year more than most it might be a bad thing... we go 7-0 against the yanks and its a great thing we go 0-7 and might as well make plans for bears camp in july

st olaf..im not too familiar with it but just by the name isnt that a small conservative catholic college???... if so why are you shocked becasue students are protesting liberalism or liberal ideas???...there are a bazillion liberal colleges throughout this country..cant there be one conservative one that doesnt hold your views???

or the good rev al

mel gibson did not side step the interview....they have the transcript of what he said on NBC channel 5 news tonight..."he said do i believe the holocust happened??yes , of course i do..and it was a terrible thing"..he went into a more detailed answer but thats all i remember...even the commentator on nbc5 news said gibson said he disagrees with his father on this issue.. so how is that sidestepping the issue??? refusing to talk bad about his father is not agreeing with his dad...it is what it is (haha - sorry -couldnt resist )...its refusing to talk bad about his father...and the new york times reporter or whoever it was that went after gibson's father should be fired for what he did...because he has an issue with mel gibson he goes and manipulates his father...what does mel gibson's father have to do with this anyways???... can you give me an example of emmerich's visions being anti-semetic???...honestly i have no clue what her visions were other than they were suppose to be so much more violent than what was written in the scriptures...i never even heard of her prior to this movie..but everytime a reporter or tv show brings up her visions being anti-semetic , they never expound on that..

just heard on the news that ralph nader is seriously considering entering the race for the presidency in '04....report also says that leading democrats are furiouswith him as they blame him for gore's defeat in '00...

youre right the first time..it was terry kath..my bad

here is a link to 4 historians take on who killed jesus...crossan is one of the experts...its a long read but its really interesting http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4315203/

johnny ramone 16??? i liked punk rock and thr ramones were one of my favorites but cmon on..you have to know all of 3 chords to play punk..then guys like eddie van halen are number 70 and angus young 95?? perhaps the greatest guirtarist of all time..peter kath from chicago (atleast thats what jimi hendrix said) didnt even make the list...

if we decide to do this i say make it a nice summer day in august and lets tailgait our asses off!!!!