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QUOTE(3E8 @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 04:51 PM) 1) UW should have won. Instead of just saying "UW shoulda won" how bout you actually give a reason for that... Illinois was leading at the half, so its not like Wisconsin dominated the game and then lost it in the final minutes... Im interested to hear your reasoning because I dont think youve got any Illinois was up by 1 with 3:39 left at Wisconsins home court... if they SHOULD have won they would have done it, but they couldnt, and not because they "choked" which they didnt, but because Illinois is a far better team.. a choke would be what michigan state did at Wiscy.... uhhh, 8 pt lead with 10 minutes left though... get real

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 04:43 PM) Where have I made on excuse? Go through the thread, If I was the Wisconsin coach I would say that is a game that we "should" have won. Whenever we are up at our home we expect to win. Whenever we play at home we expect to win. So when we are up 8 and 2 consecutive possessions have a chance to put it at double digits, I consider that a game we should have won. You all seem to forget that while Wisconsin was up 8, Illinois started to panic, and if it were not for Ingram's 2 three pointers, they game may of very well ended up in Wisconsin's favor. But that is what happens, some times players come up big at critical moments, where as other times the ball just does not seem to fall (lay up by Wisconsin to bring the game back to 3 missed and then it was a roller coaster.) The hype is that Illinois can not lose. I grew up as an Illini fan, I have spent every year of my life except for 4 in Illinios (while at College). If I sincerely thought Illnios was unbeatable, I would post it, it would be easier to admit that Illinois just flat out played Wisconsin than to say, Wisconsin could have won. You can all think what you want, but there is no way Illinois ends up undefeated. SB you couldnt be anymore WRONG Illinois panic??? Correct me if im wrong, but everytime Wisconsin got out by a few points Illinois came back to either tie it or take the lead EVERY time.. and its not SHOULD have won, its COULD have won... but Illinois played better when it mattered and DID win... bottom line "this is a game we could have won" nothing that happened down the stretch was due to Wisconsin mistakes, Illinois played better when it was crunch time and DID win... shoulda, coulda, woulda, DIDNT

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 03:32 PM) No Wisconsin should have won. Up 8 at home with 10 minutes left, where they have not lost in almost 3 years. That is a game that "SHOULD" have been won. Had they only ever led by 2, etc, that is a game they "could" have won. It was an anomoly that Wisconsin lost that game, to say anything else is to deny what really happened. And for all of the bragging in this thread, Illinois had to eventually beat Wisconsin. I mean Wisconsin beat Illinois multiple times last year, I do not think any reasonable Badger fan would think that it would happen two years in a row. But if you think, Wisconsin does not have a shot at Assembly Hall... There is a reason why they play the game. SB Since when is an 8 point lead with 10 minutes left safe and SHOULD be a win???? 8 freaking points, go home fool your team got beat by the better team, your streak is over, get over it quit making excuses for your badgers

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 02:32 PM) in a recent interview she said that she was just joking and Kris Benson knew that too. She also said she would do anything for Kris if he won the cy young.. anything. Ide be willing to bet she would do anything anyways

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 01:23 PM) I think Wisconsin should of won, but at a critical time when they were 8 up they got complacent and pulled both Tucker and Wilkinson. Illinois played a very good game, and I think that they are far more talented in the back court than Wisconsin is. That being said, I do not think Illinois is unbeatable, and I think a lot of people are getting ahead of themselves thinking that they are going to sweep the Big 10. Congrats on the win, hopefully Wisconsin learns from this and is ready for Assembly Hall, the Big 10 tourney, and the NCAA. SB should have won?.. nah.. Illinois played better when it mattered, the final 3 minutes of the game when it was MUST HAVE Wisconsin COULD have won if they would have played, but those final minutes of the game proved how better Illinoi is than Wisconsin AND Michigan State for that matter.. putting away the game when the heat is on, and Illinois took care of it against Wisconsin and Iowa..

QUOTE(TheDybber @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 01:34 PM) There are NO unbeatable teams in college basketball. None. What this game proved is that Illinois can beat any team if it wants to. Isnt that basically saying Illinois is unbeatable?? Why would they ever go into a game and NOT want to beat someone?

haha speaking of I JUST read this on CBSSportsline Thats a lot of screwing Note to Self: Become a New York Met Bat Boy

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 03:00 AM) I protest that catagorization of her, and the dime-store hooker remark above yours. That is totally uncalled for. She never said a word about charging the Mets for her services. Duh Duh CHHHHHHH....

QUOTE(winodj @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 12:04 PM) Why Columbus? They have a fan base. It's a city that has been ACHING for a major league franchise. So much so that they went ahead and built a stadium for major league soccer. The Blue Jackets have/had a fan base believe it or not, because all the folks in Central Ohio were sick of rooting for the folks north and south of them. ok, that still doesnt change the fact I think they should be eliminated

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 12:06 PM) I understand your points, but for some people, i think the "lack of faith" was just more of a "lack of overconfidence", and rightly so. 16 points? I think you're nuts, but you can think what you want. haha you can think im nuts I agree with your statement about the lack of faith, but as far as MSU goes I havent been too impressed with them.. and I have a friend thats a MSU fan and he keeps talking s*** and saying MSU by 16 so I have to counter that, and I believe thats what its gonna be.. Last year when they played and Illinois killed them I gave him so much s*** he had to block me mid game on AIM

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 11:55 AM) First off, Illini won't win by 16 at MSU Second of all, it was a tossup game in my mind because of the streak, yes...but we've had better teams than Wisky go into Kohl and lose time after time after time. It wasn't a huge lack of faith, it was just the nervousness of not being the huge favorite in a game for once. You think what you want, I think they will win by 16 And yes, lots of people, not saying you, had a HUGE lack of faith.. Wisconsin is not a great team, and just because they play very good at home is no excuse to doubt your team they way some people did.. (Not saying you) Now if we would have been like 15 - 5 and lost to Iowa, I might have been able to feel the same way some people did.. but there wasnt a doubt in my mind that we werent gonna win this game..

QUOTE(The Critic @ Jan 26, 2005 -> 09:31 AM) Panthers Thrashers Coyotes Sabres Penguins Blues Mighty Ducks these are the teams that should go.... heh...kidding about the Blues.....sort of..... Phoenix Nashville Columbus Florida Buffalo are the teams that I think need to be done away with

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 07:15 PM) I don't think you are understanding what I'm trying to say. I said don't get too cocky and think the Illini are going to beat everyone. Not just you, but mostly the team and their fan base. For example, my HS's team started 7-0 and everyone was kissing their ass saying they were going to win state and then they went out and lost two in a row. Tonight will be a tough game, and I have a feeling they are going to lose. I do not want them to lose; however, because the Illini are one of my favorite teams. First of all.... a 7 - 0 high school team has no business being compared to a 19 - 0 #1 team in college basketball.. (of course I say 19 - 0 because this would be pre game you brought this up) a lot of teams anywhere can go 7 - 0, but 20 - 0 is a different story ESPECIALLY in college basketball Also, I dont get why some people had such little faith in Illinois last night.. I suppose they just looked past the fact they were undefeated and #1 and CRUSHED some of the better teams this year (Wake, Gonzaga, Cincy) just because Wiscy had a 38 game home win streak? This isnt previous years, this is this year.. and when you looked at everything there shouldnt have been as big a doubt as I saw from a lot of people.. Oh and Aboz.... Illini by 16 next Tuesday

QUOTE(Spod=Ratings @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 04:18 PM) Thanks Kalapse and thanks man of steel for the sig...puts others to shame.If anyone wants to make me another one with Pics of Spod and Spod=ratings on it they can...Not putting yours down MOS it rocks haha didnt even expect you to use it, i made it at school in the library..

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 10:58 AM) What does the order matter? 1. MB 2. Freddy 3. Contreras 4. Garland 5. El Duque thats how I see it

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 10:48 AM) Not the clippers. = teh sux0rs

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 10:36 AM) Ya, las angeles is isn't a major market or anything. But you are right about the rumors of him possibly going to either orlando or las angeles when his contract is up. Lakers or Clippers? because if its Lakers i will be hella pissed

QUOTE(Goldmember @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 10:39 AM) best. paint. sig. eva. LMAO yes.. im in the college library right now, bored as hell, so I decided to do a little Paint Shop

Hope you like it

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 09:57 AM) I do not try and hide my bias, just it is very hard for teams to win on the road, especially when you are playing against defensive minded teams. Also I think its going to be a real rough environment, just have a feeling that most who are attending have been sitting around drinking all day just waiting to go to the Kohl Center. I think it will be more important for Illinois to get off to a good start than Wisconsin. Sb Yeah somewhat true, but this isnt Purdue or Michigan.. those type of teams are the type of teams I see as having little to no chance at a dominate home arena like Wisconsin where as Illinois is an unselfish team who can hit the long shot fairly consistantly.. They also play very good defense, and have tons of speed.. They are a very sound team I can see a repeat of Wake Forrest happening where Illinois jumped out and never looked back.. but yeah I will give you the home court theory, I just think Illinois will be able to overcome it

I will never cheer for the Patsies.. as far as im concerned the Dolphins will win

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 09:44 AM) If Illinois can handle the crowd, then they can win. I predict Wisconsin will win in a defensive game, although I think Illinois is probably more talented. SB you would say that wouldnt you soxBADGER

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 02:08 AM) I think he'll either stay in Houston which is most likely, or head to Orlando or Losa Angeles when his contract is up. What makes you say that? To go back with The Franchise?

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jan 25, 2005 -> 08:55 AM) I honestly.......don't know. Illinois has had games where tey look like they should be able to take wisconsin down pretty handily. And then there's been games where Wisconsin could blow us out (ie: the iowa game) . All i know, it's going to be a damn good game to watch. Well in all fairness Iowa was one of our toughest opponents we have played, and I mean that.. Another thing, we shot like 30% that game, from our usual 50%\ Then you gotta take in account what we have done against the big time teams like Wake, Gonzaga, and Cincy.. We crushed all of them.. Should be a real good game, and I think we are going to show up ready to play.. Even if we lose, thats a good thing too, because if we lose now then they can say "Well we won 19 in a row, now we got that one loss lets keep playing hard" Ide be scared if they were still undefeated going into the tourny, ide rather them lose now so they dont have that extreme pressure on themselves.. BUT like I said I think we win tonight and keep it going..

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jan 24, 2005 -> 12:56 PM) Bartolo-esq haha no way, Bartolo is just a blob.. Jenks actually looks like hes just got brute size