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Man, would have been nice to see the Sox match this package. I like Hermida.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 10:02 AM) I really like Getz, but he has quite a limited ceiling. Fields sucked. So we aren't losing a ton. But Teahen ain't that good either, so we aren't getting a ton, except for versatility — which can be quite valuable at times. I am just kinda meh at this point, not happy, not too angry. I'll wait to see what KW's master plan is before I react to this seemingly inconsequential deal. That's pretty much how I feel about this deal. It's not something to get up in arms about and it's really hard to evaluate individual offseason trades with KW. Usually you have to look at the finished work. QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 11:52 AM) You don't move Gordon Beckham for Mark Teahan. I don't think you are moving Beckham for Teahen. You are getting Teahen to move Beckham. Beckham just got moved to 3rd, which is a tougher transition from SS. I don't see why he wouldn't be able to handle 2B. We don't know where Teahen is going to play and I don't know why people are so sure he will play OF. I don't know why you think Getz will hit .300 in the bigs, but that's me. QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 12:07 PM) I hate all the leadoff hitter talk. Leadoff hitters hit once a game, for one thing. For another thing, OBP trumps speed, you don't HAVE to have a speedster at the top. And most importantly, its just not smart to acquire players based on hitting slot specifically, because you essentially corner yourself in the market and limit your possibilities. This is the same in any line of business. You don't go recruit people that are ideal for a fourth of their job, you recruit people that are best overall for the WHOLE job. You assemble the best 9 guys you can, then make the lineup from there. This has to be my favorite post of yours ever. QUOTE (JuiceCruz16 @ Nov 5, 2009 -> 01:15 PM) I think Beckham was just a stop gap at 3rd base. He never translated into a 3rd baseman from what I saw. He was always seen as a middle infielder with shortstop being a bit of a stretch. I think he was always put in as a 2nd baseman and desperation led to him filling in at 3rd last year. Absolutely agree. Beckham's value is higher at 2B. I don't see why we wouldn't be able to handle the spot with ST to work on it.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 11:00 PM) And VDN.. Kirk's been good this season, but please get off his nuts with the crazy PT. I love Pargo BTW who should be getting more minutes. Please heal up quickly Rose. Not sure if this is what you meant, but I'm sure Hinrich's playing time is related to Rose's health. I don't have a problem with it anyway. Hinrich is a solid player.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 09:22 PM) Is there a worse, more slow player then Brad Miller? Free throws aside he had a very good game. 13 points, 7 boards, 4 assists, a block and only 2 turnovers.

People got mad at the Brandon Allen trade, but this seems to be the going rate for average relievers.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 07:51 PM) For comparison's sake Josh Fields first time at Bham he went just under 30%, and Borchard was at about 30.5%. Jordan was at 25.7%. Better numbers comparatively, but he needs to improve. Really, the percentage is lower than that. 25.7% is K/AB, which is unfair because you aren't counting walks. A walk is a plate appearance where he had a chance to strike out and did not so those should be counted as well. Jordan had a very good walk rate so that will make the K rate better. It should be K/(AB+BB). For Jordan that's 22.7%. Fields was 26.7%. Borchard 27.1%. Meanwhile Brian Anderson was only 14.7% (jumped to 23.3% in AAA). So yes, Jordan needs to improve his contact rate, but we are dealing with a really small sample size. We have only one full year, half of which he had an injured wrist. We don't know if he was going to or did make improvements, but wasn't healthy. During his tiny sample size in the AFL he's only Kd 10 times in 65 PA (15.3%, not counting tonight's game in action). Strikeouts should be a concern, but not a major worry yet IMO.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 07:18 PM) Beckham wasn't striking out 40% of the times he came to the plate. That's a huge difference. 40%? Really? We're talking less than 23% here. He's not that far from a reasonable K rate.

QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 10:49 PM) Regarding your comment about "the Sox trailing most of the year"... yeah... technically... but they were competing for a long stretch. For example: They were 2.5 games out of first during the first week of July. They were only one game out on July 21st. They were one game out on August 5th. And they were only 2 games out on August 19th. In other words, they hovered around 1-2 games out of first for 6 weeks... and kept it going until almost the end of August. But lack of production by vets late in the season... Dye batting .179 after the allstar break... Rios batting .210 in August and .173 in September... Quentin batting .236 on the year... Linebrink with an 8.49 ERA in August and a 10.29 in September... etc... simply killed their chances. Bottom line: it was not a lack of talent problem. We had some talented players who simply did not produce. I guess it's a matter of how much the improvement of those guys would give. You can't just talk about the guy who underachieved though. Podsednik had his best hitting year since 2003. Carrasco had good numbers despite the worst stuff on the staff. Freddy Garcia was solid despite being out of baseball halfway into the season. It depends how you look at it. You could say the Sox were pretty bad if they caught 3 breaks like that and still only won 79 games. QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 01:31 AM) Watching Paulie, Jermaine, Thome, AJ, etc. hand their starters losses and no decisions after great outings because they couldn't get a hit off a bunch of rookies and 6th starters was pathetic. Linebrink was garbage in the second half and he has all kinds of talent as a reliever. They still had enough talent to take 87 games in a bad division IMO. Blaming Paulie, AJ and Thome is harsh. I guess it says more about the state of the AL Central that the White Sox had enough talent to come close if more things went their way. QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 3, 2009 -> 01:44 AM) Yeah, I don't think you can really blame the talent factor when you see what the Twins got by on. We have consistently had more talent on our team, but we simply fail to execute. The Twins execute. The Tigers executed this year. We did not. At some point, the GM has to start looking at the failure to execute and go out and get players that will, and I think that is exactly what Kenny and Co. are doing right now. Hopefully they don't go overboard and bring in a bunch of Nick Punto's, but 1 or 2 of them isn't necessarily bad. The Twins have the best hitter in the AL, a damn good bullpen, a former MVP and solid infield defense. It's fitting that in a year where the AL Central winner wasn't good, a default winner so to speak, it was the Twins who took it. Never bad, never great.

QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 2, 2009 -> 08:43 PM) Not sure I agree. The problem, IMO, was a lack of production from key veterans... specifically Quentin, Dye (in the second half), Linebrink, Rios, and Contreras (who melted down after having a brief hot stretch). That, and a cold streak that sucked the life out of the team at a time where we were right on the brink of competing. Nothing was expected out of Contreras this year. Rios was having a bad year when the Sox got him. The Sox were trailing most of the year and only flashed signs of being a good team, before Dye and Linebrink went into the tank.

It was nasty, but I still don't understand how the Spurs let it happen. That game was a real disappointment.

If the consistent performers of the team didn't want a vocal leader why do you want to piss them off? Seems to me that if you have someone who can't get fired up playing Major League ball, some dick yelling at him isn't going to make him play better. Not everyone responds the same way to everything. A player should perform on his own and it's respectable to get pissed at a guy for yelling at you. Any blame for 2009 should be assigned for a lack of talent on the team. They lined up pretty evenly with the projections going into the year.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Oct 31, 2009 -> 11:13 PM) To be fair, Pau Gasol hasn't played for the Lakers yet. He's easily their second best player and gives them a pretty nasty frontcourt if both him and Bynum are healthy. Right, the Lakers are great, but it's not a run away by any stretch.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Oct 31, 2009 -> 01:35 PM) LOL at Ricky Stanzi. BWHHAHAAHAHA Yeah...and someone on this board said he was the best senior QB in the Big Ten.

At this point I don't want to hear about Iowa being good. Even if they come back this result is enough for me to want them blackballed from BCS discussion. They are so overdue for a loss, it's not funny. I don't want to hear the RB was out excuse. It's Indiana.

The Lakers just got blown out at home by the Mavs and the Celtics beat the Lakers in the finals 2 years ago when Garnett was healthy. Garnett's healthy again and they added Rasheed Wallace. The Lakers are not a 72-10 contender as tonight proved and they are not the clear favorite for the title.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Oct 30, 2009 -> 12:49 PM) The one thing which has really pissed me off about the NBA is the way the refs work. It is so blatantly the worst referred sport around and the calls are just so so subjective. You probably weren't considering soccer, but I think it's much worse than basketball.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 30, 2009 -> 09:59 PM) Way to lay a huge turd tonight... I'm confused with your recent Bulls related posts. Are you anti-Bulls for some reason?

I split this from the NBA thread because it was ruining the NBA talk. Continue the argument and continue discussing which girly shows you watch (Desperate Housewives has its moments), but I don't want the NHL in the NBA thread. Go Bulls lol.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 29, 2009 -> 11:07 PM) If the Bulls keep beating good teams.. that will drastically change. I'm getting into hockey more, but I'll always be a basketball guy (baseball/football as well) first. As much as hockey is back in Chicago, there's just more of a bigger base out there for basketball especially for mixed groups. (though none of them beats the baseball season for any of my friends and even football is up there if the Bears are legit.) The problem with Hawks "fans" right now is 2/3 of the bandwagon started watching last year and doesn't know s*** about hockey.

It was outside anyway.

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 28, 2009 -> 01:21 PM) Is there a reason WHY it's such a hitters league? Do more top hitters go there than pitchers. Is it strictly arizona weather + small stadiums? For the reasons said above and the hot dry air helps a bit too. Spring training in AZ favors hitters as well. The AFL does more so because the pitchers are working on stuff and the top guys are being protected/saved. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 28, 2009 -> 05:13 PM) There is also the Jared Mitchell factor, who projects as a star defensive CF. All 3 of those should at least be able to play capable CF. It would be a drastic turn around from what we've seen since Rowand if things break right.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Oct 28, 2009 -> 01:26 AM) All this talk about Retherford and Jo. Danks is the one putting up .436/.542/.667/1.208 numbers so far. Really good to see. Really, really good to see. I'm still holding out hope his wrist injury was why he struggled in the 2nd half.

Javelinas win 10-9 Danks 2-3, RBI, 3 R, 2 BB Retherford 2-5, 2 RBI, K Morel 1-4, 2 RBI, K Santos IP, 3 R

For those interested, Strasburg had a bounce back start. 4.1 IP, 1 R, 5 K, 2 BB, 1 H.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 26, 2009 -> 04:36 PM) The obvious answer is... How did that work out? The strikeout numbers really are very similar now that I look at it. Hopefully they can fix the hole in his swing. Right, but we don't have enough of a sample size with Mitchell to see if his K rate will go down or not. He certainly has time. This guy was taken as a project so we will see if he projects better.