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Well, I think we've found a thread to crack out on for a couple weeks or months

I really don't see what the other rumored teams could be offering that we couldn't easily match- so it's no surprise to me that we're considered as having the best offer out. I'll "dare to dream" as Hahn requested... starting with the dream that the trade price is lower than antisipated and with Machado signing an extension: 2018 Starters as of June 10th 2B - Moncada SS - Machado 1B - Abreu RF - The Bess LF - Avi C - Castillo DH - Davidson CF - Anderson 3B - Sanchez Starting Rotation Rodon Kopech Lopez Shields Fulmer Bullpen ( s*** ) Covey Minaya Infante Vieira Bummer Some Rule 5 Dude 2019 projection 2B - Moncada SS - Machado 1B - Abreu RF - The Bess LF - Avi 3B - Donaldson C - Castillo DH - Davidson CF - Anderson Rotation Kopech Rodon Pomeranz Lopez Hansen Bullpen Fulmer Cease Burdi Burdi Vieria Miller

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:44 PM) Nathan Bernhardt‏Verified account @jonbernhardt again, if the White Sox are in on Machado it's because they perceive that whatever they'd be giving up wouldn't threaten their rebuild. It means something like a Carlos Rodon/Avisail Garcia package https://twitter.com/jonbernhardt/status/941185191451774976 You think the Os would green light a Rodon trade for their biggest star since Cal Ripken? Bwhhahahahahahahahah. Ok, buddy. ??????????????

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:35 PM) Kopech will only be included with an immediate extension, no way he is added without one. I said that like 2 pages back. ???‍♂️

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:38 PM) Dude, you are getting bent out of shape over losing out on Giolito for a top 10 player in baseball? Our rotation will be sick without Gio and having Machado improves our chance of locking him up long term and attracting top free agents to play with us. We can replace Gio in the draft next year if we wanted to even. It's not that easy to: A, replace Giolito from a f***ing draft and B, sign Machado.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:32 PM) I'd be shocked if the best offer the O's had was a Giolito headlined package, as nice of a pitching prospect as he is. Would love to be proven wrong here. Maybe they're enamored with the success he had last season in the MLB... here's hoping. I wouldn't be. An asset like Giolito is extremely rare. Give me comparable pitchers from the other interested teams who has full team control and some proven MLB dominance, that was in the running to be the first overall pick of his draft class.

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 10:22 PM) And if the Machado plan fails, we send him out for a great package at the deadline anyway. I hadn't thought of it like this and if Machado doesn't sign an extension while he's lighting up the down arrow cell park place for the first half... we'd likely be primed to recover greater talent than Giolito at the deadline... while then having a bit of a unique position in off season negioations with Manny. Risky - but still calculated. If Kopech is involved thou, I'll want to punch someone in the face. Either way, you know it's risky when the idea of trading either of the mentioned pieces makes my heart rate jump about 35 bmp.

1.) There's no f***ing way they're trading Kopech for Machado without an extension locked up. 2.) If Cooper doesn't believe that Giolito's mechanics will hold up and they're trading him with some sort of extension being a strong possibility, I could look the other way and painfully stomach the risk. 3.) However, if they're trading EITHER of these young starting pitchers just to throw a hail marry at signing him before or during the next FA term - that's f***ing vomit inducing yuck. The ONLY way I would be down with this is if they: A.) Only lost someone like Giolito and a younger pitching prospect not named Hansen or Cease. B.) Where SURE that they could sign him for something like 10/325 with player opt outs at years 4,6, and 8. C.) Could trade Avi for a package of talent that included an arm with as much promise as Giolito. D.) Didn't really believe in Giolito being a long term innings eating #2. That's a lot of "if's" -- so I don't think this gets done... and if it does, the probability that I'll be pleased is very low.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) Dan Clark‏Verified account @DanClarkSports Boston, New York (Yankees), St Louis and Chicago (White Sox) are the teams who have contacted the #Orioles about Machado. https://twitter.com/DanClarkSports/status/941040805279498240 You'd have to guess Cardnails based on White Sox position and the division of the first two teams.

QUOTE (KagakuOtoko @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 03:01 PM) Good lord. Seriously? Of course ( edit - it might be less if he demands a trade )

Phil Rogers.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 13, 2017 -> 09:36 AM) I’m surprised by how willing people are to trade Cease. I personally think he’ll be better than Hansen Wow! That's a huge statement.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 05:31 PM) Hearing nothing close with White Sox. Just talks here. And they won’t be trading top prospects for one year of Machado. https://twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/status/940753574082105344 Aka: duh duh duh duh du duh. Duh duh duh duh duh duh. And duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh duh Machado.

QUOTE (ChiSoxJon @ Dec 12, 2017 -> 03:26 PM) Keep in mind Yanks have Torres, Frazier, Andujar, Sheffield to spare Yea, well... they're in the same division too.

Even if we were able to reach an extension agreement with him as a condition of a trade - I would still want nothing to do with such a swap. Give me Lopez and Gio all day over him.

QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 11, 2017 -> 07:33 AM) Hahn is going to be on MLB Network in about 5 minutes. What'd dude say?

https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/status/939966492078198787

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Dec 10, 2017 -> 01:06 AM) What direction is reality from Oz? It's been scientifically proven that the sunlight of logic and reason is incapable of penetrating the deep, very deep, rabbit hole. No worries about the heart rate though. Conspiracy rabbits are naturally wound up like a crack head so a high heart rate is the norm. Did you know, conspiracy rabbits are closely related to the headless chicken? Now you know why NASCAR drivers are always wrecking. Makes sense now, doesn't it. Conspiracy Rabbits => Headless Chickens => Crashed NASCAR Drivers Yup! Makes perfect sense!!

QUOTE (miracleon35th @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 10:07 PM) ...Bryce Harper's hair... I'm sure that's his first priority ?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 10:13 PM) Dick Allen of our board here convinced me Hahn was determined to ship Abreu and Avi of poop. After being convinced of it, it's easy to see why. Like I said it completes the gutting of the roster and the full rebuild is assured. Come back to reality and bask in the sunlight of logic and reason. Your heart rate will thank you.

QUOTE (FT35 @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 08:08 PM) I thought the same thing till I realized he wasn’t talking about Gleyber. Oooohhhhhhh ?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 09:52 PM) Just give me credit for saying the trade 100 percent would happen after it's completed. Sox are determined to completely gut the roster before finishing the rebuild. I love that you never use facts to support your "logic" - it's such an endearing handsome quality, big boy

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 09:00 PM) https://sports.yahoo.com/bryce-harper-go-no...-235551119.html The six favorites for Bryce Harper now, Cubs in top 3 I wonder when the national media is gonna realize that the Sox only have like 13 cents in payroll with arguably baseballs best young class.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 08:53 PM) ...For St. Louis I need Kelly & Flaherty... Hell, for those two I'd include someone like Sanchez and drive Abreu to St. Louie myself... those two seem to be two of the most "can't miss MLB ready" prospects in the top 100.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 9, 2017 -> 06:25 PM) Red Sox still linked to #WhiteSox slugger Jose Abreu, but keep an eye on Cardinals. @scotgregor: https://t.co/zObvTOxJTk https://twitter.com/dailyherald/status/939661213394280449 Setting up for a bidding war... if we get a blue chip haul in the sale, eaton, or quintana mold - then I'd stomach an Abreu trade. Otherwise, just say, "no way, Jose!"