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QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 17, 2016 -> 01:18 AM) You honestly think anyone would pinch hit Saladino for Frazier ? It might make sense on some level knowing Frazier batting average with men in scoring position but no one pinch hits for a #5 hitter with a bench scrub ever. It's almost as bad for calling for Abreu to bunt. I know it's not "practical" but I also know that there's a lot of good logic behind it. I didn't for a second actually think it was going to happen - but I felt at the time that was the right move to make to manufacture the tying run. In that situation, on that night, with 3 horrid at bats already in the books... It was very likely Frazier was gonna K. Runners on 1st and 3rd with one out in the 9th - 1 run game. Fast dude on third too. You don't need a flipping strike out. Fraizer looked AWFUL against Shoemaker all night. He was consistently down 0-2. He was consistently going out of the zone for strike three at embarrising levels. It wasn't a conventional call but it was the right one.

Let's put it this way... When the pinch ran Saladino for Melky in the 9th - I was pissed. Why? Because I wanted a contact hitter like Saladino up there for Frazier in that situation.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 15, 2016 -> 05:29 PM) He'll probably be in Birmingham tomorrow.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 15, 2016 -> 12:03 PM) The next time a 34 year old breaks out in the major leagues, let me know. You're killing my dreams, Dick.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 15, 2016 -> 12:26 AM) Personal or personnel? Not quite sure I understand the "personal reasons" for why he wouldn't be starting but would be coming out of the pen instead... I wanted to go to the game Sunday and see him debut as a starter.

Bummed out that he isn't getting the start Sunday for personal reasons but understand the rationality of it. Go get em Fulmer!

Can it be tomorrow already please so that the Sox can come out guns blazing for another 23-10 run? They need to collectively kiss out asses and fire on all cylinders again.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 03:47 PM) Bosox got Pomerantz from Padres. Wow. Like the deal for both sides. This is the trade that gets the winds blowing.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 14, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) He also reported that the Sox and Cespedes finalized a contract in December I truly believe that Cespedes was the sox 1A plan and were very close to getting him.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 05:46 PM) I didn't see a single game that rutherford/lewis played, I just liked the idea of either. But collins is nice too. It'll be interesting to see how they all pan out. Going into the draft I didn't think Lewis was possible. My board at the time was: 1.) Ray 2.) Rutherford 3.) Dunn 4.) Collins When Lewis was still around I wanted him picked.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 07:11 PM) Rehab as in rehab assignment. Not a problem with addiction. Ha - the stereotype bug bites again.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 07:00 PM) It's not his struggles with addiction, it's the fact that he posted about it for the ENTIRE WORLD to see on social media. That just isn't a smart choice. Yea - impusitivity and high risk behaviors are obviously also a part of the struggle. I mean - what other personality type gets massive amounts of ink tattooed? Not many.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jul 13, 2016 -> 04:41 PM) Lawrie is also the guy that tweeted that he was going to rehab several years ago, so I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the shed. Struggles with addiction have absolutely nothing to do with being unintelligent. In fact, the same centers of the brain involved in the addictive process prior to relapse are the same exact locations accessed by top level executives in the business world. Try again. http://www.cracked.com/article_19174_5-une...ligence_p5.html

This thread has turned into Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah - Wah Wah Wah - Wah Wah - Wah Wah Wah Wah Wah. Peanuts style.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 11, 2016 -> 09:54 AM) I bet he makes the next start for Rodon,n then moves to the bullpen. That would be exciting.

QUOTE (Scoots @ Jul 11, 2016 -> 08:40 AM) http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-white-so...wo-futures-game Struck out 2 in the futures game...projecting more as a reliever. With the Sox hurting for relief, maybe this is the time to bring him up? I honestly would hate to see them trade away talent for relief pitching from another team unless that relief is under control for a few years. Looks like Fulmer though isn't going to be a starter, according to his own words in this article anyway. Thoughts? Should they keep him down there a little longer or bring him up now? I don't think his quotes indicate he's being moved to the bullpen. Interviewer: "could you pitch in a bullpen?" Fulmer: "yea, sure." Interviewer: "would you pitch in the bullpen to help the white sox this year?" Fulmer: "yea, sure." If the line of questioning went another way, you would have seen: Interviewer: "Do you believe you can start in the majors at a high level?" Fulmer: "yea, sure."

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 11:27 PM) I don't think they ever had any intention of signing one of the big 3 outfielders. The only way was if they accepted the Sox lowball offer. We won't know for sure but insiders here said the offers were real. One being higher that an accepted offer ( Gordon ). We certainly know they didn't want to sign one of the big 3 AND trade for Bruce. But that lineup sure would have been tits.

For conversation sake: Jose Abreu - .258 Todd Frazier - .145 Melky - .293 Lawrie - .284 Avi - .333 Shuck - .208 Navaro - .234 Eaton - .239 Anderson - .278 Jackson - .364

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 11:13 PM) Curious about Cargo. Now I know his road splits are worse but he'd be coming to a very hitter friendly park. Not as good as Colorado but it's good. He would've hit bombs this weekend at the Cell. I'd much rather have him than Bruce. .306

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 08:55 PM) I suspect a relief pitcher or 2 might be obtainable The bat will be much harder. Might have to roll with a better bullpen and hope Morneau does as good as the last 2 years without the aid of Coors ( Field not the beer). If we do get another bat I would suspect it to be more of a complimentary piece than a Bruce, Cargo or Lucroy.. Relying on help from the minors in the BP is a fools errand. Imagine if the Bruce trade went through in the offseason and they had signed Cespedes. SS - Anderson CF - Eaton LF - Cespedes DH - Bruce 1B - Abreu 3B - Frazier RF - Melky 2B - Lawrie C - Navaro

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 10:04 PM) I'd assume just take what player you'd add (call him X). Take a stat like RISP and then factor player X in. Sox are hitting .239. Beltran is hitting .215. Bruce .366.

I'd be interested to see some in depth stats that illustrate how much difference a big bat would have made in our line up in the first half and forecasted into the second. As in - how many LOB have we had per game on average. How many 2nd base or 3rd base runners stranded with 0 outs / 1 out / 2 outs... Take those stats and figure how much would change with a producer added. Maybe - just maybe - a big bat would do a lot for this team. Most likely not enough but just wondering.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 10, 2016 -> 08:48 PM) You speak the truth. I don't know why people don't like my suggestion that could rebuild this team in a hurry. ... Over the all star break identifiy the young studs on contenders' AA and AAA teams and GO GET THEM. Look, contenders will want the guys I want to deal: Melky, Robertson, Frazier, Duke, Lawrie, Avila, Navarro. Somebody might also want Avi and/or Shuck. Trade Q as well if you get an unbelievable haul in return. Get a boatload of players for these guys and rebuild around Sale, Abreu, Eaton, Anderson, Saladino and maybe Q. Nate can become the closer until the offseason when we buy one via free agency. GO SOX! f*** that - if you're blowing it up.. Blow it up. Sale and Abreu goes as well. Q for sure. Anderson, Rodon, and Eaton are the new ones to build around.

My guess is if they're trading for anyone of substance, he'll not just be a rental. This doesn't include bullpen help, thou.

That kids McCain impression was aweful