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QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 01:47 PM) Ya, that Hanley Ramirez jabroni is bad. Yeah he's only the best Shortstop in baseball. Before you all come with your fav shortstops, realize I know that it's subjective.....but I'd take Hanley.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 01:03 PM) Ellsbury might be the most overrated prospect/player in the history of baseball. Ditto....

QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 02:16 PM) The idea of improving the Sox short term through trades (unless they are absurdly one sided) is dumb. D-U-M-B. What? You mean you don't think the Pirates will deal Bay for Mac? What logic is this??

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 02:11 PM) 'We'll wait and see if something develops on the trade market,'' Williams said. ''It doesn't have to be a center fielder. We may choose to go the left-field route. We have a lot of flexibility as far as that's concerned.'' Flexibility = Jerry Owens can play either LF or CF http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/wh...T-sox02.article To be honest, if we can snag a guy like Druw Jones to play in Center...I wouldn't hate Owens in LF next year. *Covers face from flying stones*

QUOTE(BearSox @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 02:14 PM) It's fun to play GM, but never take these things seriously. It's a waste of time, sorry.

QUOTE(BearSox @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 02:10 PM) you didn't hear? KW is now going to take a look at every fans projected lineup and get his ideas from there. LOL. Which is a big reason why these threads annoy the hell out of me. This is probably the 5th thread or so like this since the beginning of November.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 2, 2007 -> 02:07 PM) Which projected lineups are these? Take a look at the 7 or 8 projected lineups in this thread, Owens is on like two of them. I'll say "majority" next time to appease you so you get the point.

Every projected lineup I've seen the past few weeks doesn't have Jerry Owens anywhere near it. Whether you like it or not...the chances of Owens being in LF/CF next year are overwhelming.

Since when did Mac have value? I know Bay had a bad year last year, but it'll take a hell of a lot more to get Bay.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Nov 29, 2007 -> 04:06 PM) But can it be "fixed" in 5 months? I think KW has done a good job so far. He needed to make a move or two BEFORE the winter meetings and he did that. I think Linebrink is overrated, but he is an answer for our SU void. I LOVED the OC trade, which filled our void at SS and in the two hole. KW has been active enough IMO. I agree he has work to do, but he's done enough and has done ok at worst thus far.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2007 -> 10:07 PM) Other than including DLS, I don't see how we can offer a better deal than that. That's as good as we can offer and I'm somewhat shocked the Marlins wouldn't do that. To be honest, if this deal were pre-John Garland trade....I would've loved this. But we really need one of Danks/Gio in our rotation next year with the departure of Garland.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 29, 2007 -> 08:13 PM) I've said it before and I'll say it again. Last year's Aaron Rowand is worth that kind of money. The 2006 and 2005 versions of Aaron Rowand are worth 1/4 of that. If you could guarantee me we'd get the 07 version at least most of the years of that contract, ok, but I still don't have said guarantee from anyone. Here's my comparison. Uribe gets hot next year. Puts up a Tejada like OPS. 900 or so, 30 home runs, .300+ average, etc. Would you then give Mr. Uribe a 5/$75 deal? If he put up those same numbers every year, he'd be worth it. But when Mr. .240 comes back... Let the Dodgers overpay for Rowand. Give me Druw Jones.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Nov 29, 2007 -> 12:09 AM) I'll just respectfully disagree, but I do understand your input. Well I just wanted to thank you for being understanding. Class move all the way.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 28, 2007 -> 02:45 PM) I also think they are making a great move by acquiring Young too, as he could be a pretty special player, and they can produce all the pitching they really want to. With a core of Morneau, Mauer, Cuddyer, Kubel, and Young, the offense is quite formidable again and the pitching should be just fine, even if they trade Johan. I hate to say it, but the Twins won out big in this one. Delmon is as talented as it gets. Delmon is the kind of guy you'd hope to headline a list of prospects in a deal where you deal Santana.....let alone Garza.

If you have a 360 get Mass Effect. If you're at the store and they have Mass Effect there....buy it and take it home. If you don't have a 360, buy one so then you can buy Mass Effect. My goodness what a game. (If you played the KotORs for XBox.....this is that exact same type of RPG)

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Nov 28, 2007 -> 12:07 PM) That is f***ing insane. Agreed and no one in baseball will buy it. Unless the Twinks get desperate, but their Farm isn't all that great, either.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Nov 28, 2007 -> 12:04 PM) Then convince Torii Hunter to sneak into the Anaheim front office, burn his contract, and sign a better one with the White Sox. No thanks. I'm glad he isn't on our team....even for what KW wanted to give him.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 28, 2007 -> 11:56 AM) Crisp is just not that great. Neither is Taveras. Not worth the money/prospects/players they would cost. If Rowand is asking for ridiculous money, if the Sawx are delusional enough to think they will get 3 good prospects for Crisp, if Fukodome goes elsewhere, and if the Sox can't swing a mega-deal for Andruw (signing) or Crawford (trade)... Then I think a backup plan should be signing Jenkins for LF, and going with Owens in CF. Trade Crede and Uribe for the best young prospects they can fetch. Only problem with Jenkins is that Jenkins won't come that cheap either $$$ wise. We'll all be stunned to see what he gets I'm sure. Add that in with the fact that his skills are diminishing and he's played in the NL all of his career....I'm not too thrilled about him. (I've met Jenkins and he's cool as s***. He banged one of the girls I knew and she talked him up pretty big after)

Unless we're getting Miggy in return somehow......we'd better not trade that guy.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Nov 28, 2007 -> 07:54 AM) If this is true, then it goes against everything the Sox (KW and JR) have been saying. If you are serious about building a championship team, like they say, you are going to have to pay people, simple as that. Since the Sox have one of the worst farm systems in baseball, we can't build from within, thus we must go out and sign free agents. And unfortunately, good free agents cost money, but it pisses me off the Sox never go out and get the big fish. Eh don't be so upset. The off-season isn't over yet and Hunter wasn't worth the $$$ that even the WSox were willing to give him let alone what Anaheim did.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Nov 28, 2007 -> 07:10 AM) I think Cabrera has already eaten too many bridges to get a 10 year deal. With his weight issues and reports of a deteriorating attitude, there can't be many teams if any, that would want to be locked into him for 10 years. Way too risky. Cabrera with a 10 year deal, they might have to knock out a wall in his house to get him to spring training in year 7. The point was IF he sheds pounds this next year or two......he'll get the 10 year deal. You can't tell me there isn't a team in the Majors that wouldn't lock him up for 10 years. No way.

QUOTE(chisox2334 @ Nov 28, 2007 -> 06:44 AM) Cowely sources have been wrong last yr. Going through the whole buerhle about to sign to buerhle souces saying it was dead. I love the part where says trade crede to rockies for taveras when atkins is in colordao No s***.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 27, 2007 -> 10:29 PM) I'll add dittos onto preferring Jones. I'll hop on this bandwagon as well. I hope we land the pimp of the year (Dru Down).

QUOTE(Melissa1334 @ Nov 27, 2007 -> 09:20 AM) he isnt coming here, thats right. why? bcuz like everyone is saying, if you trade for him, u have to sign him long term. u cant trade ur best prospects and let him go via free agency. and i dont think the sox would do that, 20 mill or so for 5+ years..... If Cabrera sheds a few pounds and continues to hit around .330 and his other usual numbers (which I think he will) Miggy will get a 10 yr/300 mil contract two years from now. He'd be worth it to us.

Prayers go out to Sean Taylor's family and the Washington Redskins. With that being said, if anyone actually believes this to be a burglary/strong armed robbery gone bad....you're naive. This was an assassination. Taylor was a dog long before he put on the Hurricane uniform. The man was a thug. He didn't get shot in the balls by accident. If I've upset anybody by saying these things, I don't apologize. This is why people like Taylor shouldn't get a free-pass in life and be held accountable for their actions. Taylor has always gotten off every step of the way. Taylor's past caught up with him. It's a shame to say all of this, but it's true.