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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 02:17 PM) Healthcare is the cookie jar the government has never been able to get near -- every time they've tried to reach in for some, the bad ass cookies inside beat it down with a rusty aluminum bat...but they smell blood in the water now. Why now? Because, the people have turned on healthcare unlike ever before...so strike while the irons hot. They realize the cookies overflowing in that jar are made of money...and they want it. All of it. Regardless of what happens after they get it. WTF

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 02:13 PM) You are a voice of reason. lol @ kap being a voice of reason. I hope you're joking.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 02:16 PM) So he exaggerates and writes in stream of consciousness sometimes. So what? People disagree with him and choose to ignore what he means and just point to certain phrases he uses and claim he's "gone nuts" or the ever popular "straw man" responses. No... you fail. See below QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 02:16 PM) I'm just having fun. I'm bored. But I need to get my house cleaned up now before the government comes over to check my toilets are calibrated properly. However, I certainly believe that the government needs to get the hell out of my life, Kaperbole ™ aside. NSS and me don't actually disagree with kap's actual solutions, but pointing out where he goes off the deep end is something like a sport.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 02:06 PM) Kotsay isn't much of a hitter at this point, but considering in his last 133 AB in the major leagues, Wise has 20 hits with 6 walks, and a .150 AVG. Kotsay should be playing ahead of him. Its amazing Wise is on the club. Its sickening he was allowed to make the final out last night. I laughed when they brought in Joe Nathan. I was like, is this really necessary? It's like driving to your neighbor's house.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 01:59 PM) kind of? I was being nice. The only thing I'd have a problem with is the fact that I can't look off in a distance and estimate kilometers or see an object and say about how many centimeters it is. But that's only because feet and miles are all I know and I'd just have to get used to the change.

I really don't know why though, once you learn how the Metric system actually works, the English system actually seems kind of stupid.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 01:52 PM) You don't think Fields could have been shopped last winter to get a much better prospect/player? As well as BA? Now they are scraps. In the offseason, Fields was taking over for Crede to the delight of all the Crede bashers. He was our starter with some promise. Now he's nothing but garbage on the trade market. BA also was likely to be our starter. Now we get old Kotsay for him? Scraps. Do us all a favor and let Kenny borrow your crystal ball?

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 01:26 PM) We don't spend nearly enough on science/ science education. The scientific illiteracy in this country is staggering. We used to be proud of the fact that we were way ahead in math and science. Now it's embarrassing. I think part of the reason is that being dumb, or idolizing stupidity/non-intellectual activities is hard-wired into our culture now. It's cool to be dumb. Being the "smart kid" doesn't have any social benefit until later on in high school.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 01:27 PM) Taking over my health care is a moral question. If you want to deal with morality, then deal with all of it, and quit cherry picking what liberty you want to take away from me. I'm sick and damn tired of the government telling me what lightbulbs I have to use, how much water is in my toilet, who my doctor will be, etc. etc. etc. Where does it stop? It's ok, though, government is the only answer to evil profit making. Resdistribute wealth... We have RIGHTS TO HAPPINESS now - we all must be "more equal". Or something. It's all tied together - the government wants more and more power, and we just gladly hand it over. It becomes a moral question because there's that right to choose for women, yet, we can't choose our own f***ing health care. Right. Now I'll get "straw man". Uh huh. Everything's a straw man. This is a hysterical stream-of-consciousness rant.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 01:38 PM) They probably found some polling that showed numbers dipping for politicians that supported the conspiracy. I'm sure. Frankly though the lies have already had the intended effect so it doesn't matter what they say at this point.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 01:25 PM) GOP Heads Finally Concede... the Muslim Terrorist President was indeed born in Hawaii and is a US Citizen: Last night on his TV show, Bill O'Reilly comprehensively debunked the Birthers: O'Reilly said to a letter-writer who declared himself not convinced that Obama is an American: "That is because you don't want to be convinced, Larry." That's as good a summary of the Birthers' motivations as any other. Even Ann Coulter, who normally can't resist the opportunity to attack Democrats as evil and un-American, calls the Birthers "cranks." Greg Sargent asked RNC chairman Michael Steele's office about his views of Birtherism -- and they unambiguously shot it down:"Chairman Steele believes that this is an unnecessary distraction and believes that the president is a U.S. citizen. Chairman Steele wants to move beyond this conversation and continue discussing the real and immediate concerns that face American families like the economy and health care. Americans are concerned with President Obama's health care plan, a failed stimulus package and a ballooning deficit. Chairman Steele has many other issues to take up with the president that have to do with policy, not a birth certificate." (applause)

Holy s*** this is a random topic.

WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT STDS BECAUSE MOST IF NOT ALL OF US HAVE HAD PREMARITAL SEX

QUOTE (SHIPPS @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 01:02 PM) The Sox suck and Kenny Williams never makes the right moves. We can never get young talent because we never evaluate well. We are just so bad. Don't forget, Ozzie is racist

Huh? That doesn't have anything to do with morals. It's a legit question, completely separate from abortion which can only be used as a massive red herring. Is there something we could be doing to make this better? Is there something we're doing wrong? Why can't we ask that about ourselves?

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 12:00 PM) Brian Anderson cares about Brian Anderson. He didn't care about the team, from what you can read between the lines. So, bubye. What could he do for the team from where he was?

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 11:56 AM) You know damn well that's AHB's schitck. Look at what he posted again. What the AARP is saying is bunk. They're liberal, they don't care about seniors, I don't give a s*** whether they take their money or not. Of course I just mindlessly post "disingenuous bulls***". Distorting the truth like that is a pretty standard political tactic because it's easier than actually having to explain stuff to people. s*** it's happened like 100 times in this thread already. It's not at all unfair to call them out on it.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 11:54 AM) I think we were just comparing him to Anderson on D. Yeah with the exception of that leaping catch that I don't recall Anderson ever making, there's not many things he does that Anderson can't do as well or better. I would say throw accurately but it looks like BA worked on that.

It sounds pretty clearly like disingenuous bulls*** to me.

QUOTE (kapkomet @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 11:44 AM) Yes, believe everything the Democrats tell you. We are going to cut costs, yet have much more "efficient" coverage of all things. That's talking out of both sides of your mouth, and anecdotal evidence in other "more civilized" (borrowing this liberal catch phrase) nations that offer government sponsored medicine shows AS A FACT that older people suffer in coverage. It MUST be lies, though, if "conservatives" say it's true. Ok I'm trying to figure out what this has to with what AHB posted but I give up.

QUOTE (wsgdf_2 @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 11:23 AM) I believe that he plays who he THINKS will give him a better chance to win the game at hand and the season for the long run. A lot of times fans don't agree with his decisions so to bridge the gap they jump to the conclusion that he's "playing favorites". Andy Gonzalez? The roster was devastated that season. Was he blocking someone? He was just a body taking up space because there was nobody else to use, right? In 2006 I thought the Sox would have won the division if Anderson had played every day in CF instead of Mackowiack. That's because their offense was good enough to hide him. I don't buy into the personality conspiracy crap though. Ozzie wants to win as much as any of us and has been around baseball long enough to know not to let that kind of crap get in his way. Erstad starting was a terrible decision. BA at the time had done nothing to lose the job and IIRC outplayed Erstad in spring training. Erstad, predictably, sucked and eventually got hurt. Worst case scenario was that BA started that season and bombed, and Erstad would've been there as a stopgap and the team would've known to cut ties with him 2 years ago. Best case scenario was that he continued his development. Neither one happened and Anderson lingered around until a few days ago.

QUOTE (Special K @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 11:21 AM) At this point, I honestly could care less who our late-inning defensive replacement is. Obviously it was total BS getting rid of Anderson, and they're whole excuse for sending him down was that he had the option and they could keep both players if they kept Wise up, even though they subsequently traded Anderson shortly after. However, I will start to care if Wise keeps starting every other day in center like he has been. Honestly, bat Ramon Castro or Nix in there at DH if Thome is hurt, not Wise in center. Guillen is taking absolutely no heat for this complete garbage in trotting out a sub .190 hitter every other day on a team that was in the middle of this hunt. Maybe not in the media, but oh my god is he ever taking heat for it on Soxtalk.

As much undeserved playing time as he got, I wouldn't put Lillibridge in that category. I mean, he was here while we had multiple injuries out of necessity, and when he wasn't needed anymore he was demote and Ozzie basically came out and said he sucks.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 11:03 AM) I have no issues with Wise on defense. My main point was that Guillen never seemed to care about defense before, so I don't see why it should be an issue now with Kotsay; whom atleast can provide enough offense to be labeled mediocre. Yeah, Ozzie threw the concept of caring about defense out the window last year by playing Griffey over Anderson. As much as I love Griffey, his offensive production was roughly equivalent to what Anderson would've done, but he played CF like an old ass man because, well, he is an old ass man now.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Jul 29, 2009 -> 10:52 AM) So, then Kotsay's role is as backup to Konerko.......and a backup to Wise?! It's indefensible to keep Wise around. If we're willing to put Podsednik in CF this season, Griffey in CF last season, Mackowiak several years before, it should be obvious OF defense isn't a high priority with defense. Kotsay should easily eclipse Wise's offense. He's f***ing useless. I just made this post in another thread, but DeWayne Wise being a s***ty defender is a myth created by Soxtalk. He really isn't that bad. And everybody should know I'm no Wise supporter.