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QUOTE (BearSox @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 09:32 PM) Kap, would you want these innocent freedom fighters who were standing up against evil America to be treated poorly? Of course not! They should all be given nice hardy meals 3 times a day, nice cozy beds, basically anything they want! And if evil America ever needs to get info from them, they should just ask politely. Cause you know what, they might be chopping off heads of every American they capture, but they are just overreating after years of oppression by the American Government. We need to be better than them. Oh, and we need to give them civilian trials, because they deserve to be American Citizens! Geez, it's bad enough when it's just Kap doing it, but please try to keep these kinds of over-the-top posts out of the wrong threads.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 09:29 PM) I will never hate another NBA team like I hated the Isaiah Thomas Pistons will Pat Riley's Knicks a close second... Word, I think any Bulls fan over 25 would/should agree automatically.

Who needs rebounds when Gordon can just rain 3's?

QUOTE (ChWRoCk2 @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 09:26 PM) I can't stand the f***ing Celtics. Hated them last year too, no specific reason. Up one, need to start making some better passes though, like to see Rose drive and kick it out more since BG is hittin them, even Kirk makes them when he gets the ball. I hate teams from Boston, but I was pulling for Garnett last year.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 09:25 PM) That's funny, I'm the opposite. I've always liked Ray Allen. Not a fan of Pierce, but other than it being the playoffs I really don't hate anyone on this team. I'm glad they don't have Posey anymore. I took a James Posey earlier this afternoon at work after a cup of coffee.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 09:10 PM) Wouldn't that be BA's position? BA has a history of supporting terrorists, this explains his poor standing with the Sox organization.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 09:10 PM) Q's hair looks too much like Blagojevich. This is very close to blasphemy and I will pray that he does not smite you.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 09:05 PM) Also, Obama bowed down to Quentin and kissed his feet. If Gates retires in a couple years, Obama should nominate Quentin to be Secretary of Defense. The Sox fan in him probably won't allow that though.

QUOTE (CryptviLL @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 09:06 PM) thomas with 5 blocks, nice He just took that ball and shoved it up Rondo's ass... love it

QUOTE (ChWRoCk2 @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 09:03 PM) Had it since the beginning of the half i believe. I didn't even notice, I just pulled up the lineup and saw the 10-10 by rebounds and assists.

Rondo has a triple double

Is that Jermaine Dye shaking Obama's hand? Is Obama really that tall?

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 08:05 PM) Hoping the best players on the opposing team get hurt so you can advance is an admittance that you aint good enough to beat them,I'm old school,I don't buy that...even if KG wasn't hurt its not a given that the Bulls can't beat them,thats why you play the games... If KG was in this game, then this isn't a series.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 07:56 PM) During Friday night's game I heard Darrin Jackson praising Dye's arm in right field. He admitted that Jermaine catches everything flat footed but that his quick transfer from glove to hand, quick release and strong arm make up for it. How he could watch runners take base after base on Jermaine Dye over the past 4 seasons and continue to defend him is beyond me. I know he likes to get creative and throw behind the runner at 1B in an attempt to keep them honest but that s*** (which I don't remember ever actually working) doesn't make up for his 4 hopping throws into 2B on hard hit should-be singles into the gap or rolling the ball 6 feet up the 3B line on plays at the plate. "Jeramaine's got a shot with a good throooooow . . . no!" I think it was last year when I was watching Joe Morgan (I think) do a Sox broadcast and the outfield was Quentin-Anderson-Dye, and they were talking about how all 3 of those arms are strong. Whoever was the other person in the booth asked who it was, Morgan hesitated and said Jermaine Dye. I guess that's a default answer if you don't know any better. The correct answer is probably Anderson, actually.

QUOTE (qwerty @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 07:13 PM) I don't think it is obviously flawed because you do not agree with it. Fangraphs ''arm'' would be in agreement that his arm has never been particullary good. http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/...n_2003-03-21_0/ I read that as sarcasm, Kalapse regularly rips Dye's perceived arm strength.

Point #3 is valid. It's an "underlying condition" that contributes to terrorism, which is one of many things. It doesn't even have to necessarily be something we accept. (This is straight from the Bush Administration's National Strategy for Combating Terrorism from Feb. 2003 - my interpretation of it, but the basic definition is in there)

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 03:01 PM) There's a key point you're missing here. It's well illustrated by this specific case. There is simply no difference at all between the first time you waterboard someone (or give them the "wall treatment, or stick them in a box with whatever their greatest fear is) and the 183rd time. Neither one of them is done out of necessity. In either case, the motivation is exactly the same as it has been throughout time whenever torture has been used. It does 1 of 2 things...either it is going to "extract" a "confession" to something you know with 100% certainty that a person did (in other words, they're going to confess to whatever the hell you want them to confess to), of its going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are a bigger man than the person you're torturing. Even in the classic "Ticking time bomb" scenario that pro-torture people love to cite, repeated testimony by the people who do interrogations for a living says that torture isn't helpful. It extracts whatever confession you expect to extract. These cases in the GWOT are great proof of it. When we wanted information from Saddam, we didn't beat him, we talked to him and he told us virtually everything. When we wanted information from Zubaydah, and KSM, we talked to them. When we wanted to prove we were big men, or when we wanted to "extract" more "Information" out of them, we slammed their heads against walls and tried to drown them 183 times in a month. When we wanted to invade Iraq, we made sure the Egyptians got the answers from the guy they captured that we wanted to hear. When police in Illinois wanted to make sure a criminal wound up on death row, they shut the cameras off, and that happened often enough that even George Ryan didn't have the stomach to allow that state to keep its death penalty going. I really don't care if those guys are put to death any more than you do. But I do care about the system. I can ask the same question you ask about the 183rd time about the first time, and I am equally correct in asking it. I'm not missing any point because I'm not advocating torture, even waterboarding. I'm expressing my disapproval of the administration seemingly politicizing things that aren't meant to be talked about in public (in this case that i bought up you mentioned they were sued to release it, but he's made it a pretty clear pattern). You're talking to someone who has actually interrogated people btw.

I haven't changed the Obama one because I can't find one that's funnier. I want to use this one actually.

QUOTE (bmags @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 01:46 PM) Stop bashing Missouri. It's especially pretty in Columbia, I'm about to head to three creeks park to read. This is the prettiest town I've lived in. Sorry Naperville/Aurora. but besides that, Quentin is well-respected in the baseball scene in Columbia, MO. In the two baseball drafts I've done, people get angry when Quentin is selected because they all think he is their own little secret. Who are you, and why are you posting under bmags's profile?

lostfan's new sig? yes or no

Yeah, E, F, G, H, I, J, K etc just like numbered streets in Chicago except they don't go across the whole city. There is a club called the K Street Lounge that I keep meaning to go to but never do.

QUOTE (RibbieRubarb @ Apr 20, 2009 -> 01:36 PM) I know...we all hate having to call your wife. I don't blame you. But you guys aren't giving me my commission which is pretty disrespectful. Nothing is free in this world!

I actually hate DC a lot and think it's really overrated, but I also live here so take my opinion with a grain of salt. It's fun to see all the stuff at first.

I'd say she is right, but there is a difference between what she perceives as "old school" conservatism and actual "old-school" conservatism, like the kind that SS2K5 etc. preach. As far as what she's talking about, she's absolutely right. But conservatism itself hasn't fundamentally changed, just some of the people who call themselves conservatives.