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Tigers win. Mariners lead. Love to see a 4-way tie, or just the Blue Jays blowing it.

12th at best. 14th at worst. With the Marlins cancellation, and Pirates tie last night, they can pass the Sox if they play two games worse this weekend. Sox-Twins Marlins-Nationals Pirates-Cardinals Interesting cluster from the 2nd to 7th picks.

Good season again for Quintana. 208 innings, 3.20 ERA Sox 70-81 in his 151 career starts.

Blue Jays and Orioles 87-72. Jays won season series 10-9.

Indians have to go back to Detroit to play Monday, if necessary. Not good news for the Orioles or Mariners.

Tor 87-71 +1 Bal 86-72 -- Det 85-73 1 Sea 84-74 2 Tigers-Indians this afternoon, weather permitting.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Sep 29, 2016 -> 10:39 AM) Besides Porcello, Verlander, and Kluber, which AL starters have an argument that they've had a better year than Sale? I don't think he finishes worse than 5th. I agree. 5th. Britton, some order of the three you mentioned, then Sale. That's what I think right now, but could change.

Archer trying to avoid his 20th loss tonight. Talk about bad run support.

If they changed the rules that it has to be a pitcher with at least 180 innings, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Then they could make a bigger deal for Reliever of the Year. That would be a good thing to do. But I think in a year where no starter has an ERA under 3, and Britton is perfect in save opportunities for a contending team, with a 0.55 ERA, and an 809 ERA+, I would vote for him. He deserves it under the current rules, and even a lot of advanced stat people agree. It seems like some are trying to make a case for Sale because he's "our guy". Even if it were just for starting pitchers, I doubt Sale would crack the top 3 right now, but I'd like to look at it more closely Sunday night when it's all over.

As long as relievers are eligible, Britton has had a season that is special where the rest of the starters have been good, not great. I think Britton deserves it. Maybe Sale gets 2nd. Let's talk Sunday night.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 03:26 PM) Why not just hope he wins it? If he was close, I would. Britton, Kluber, Porcello, and Verlander are ahead.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Sep 28, 2016 -> 03:24 PM) Weird thing to hope for. Historically, top-5 Cy's and MVPs are noted as an accomplishment.

Hopefully Sale can finish 5th. That's about as high as he can finish unless Britton blows a couple saves.

I'm willing to be patient and see what happens between the last pitch Sunday and Monday afternoon. Hopefully Robin won't be back. And the stuff about a new manager not making a difference shouldn't even be a topic. Robin Ventura should have never got the job, so it's just the right thing to do to end his time here, and move on.

Scot Gregor thinks Robin will decline. Maybe this is a planned offer to come back for a year, he declines, and that's that. Everybody knows this should be a clean break.

If Zach Duke didn't pull off the El Duque in Boston...f***!

79 pitches. One more inning should be ok.

Orioles trailing, Tigers and Mariners leading. Hopefully there will be meaningful games on Sunday afternoon.

5 innings tonight and Sunday would be good. Sale is a major league starter. He should make all of his starts as long as the season is 162 games.

Eaton back in the lineup. Sale needs 17 scoreless innings for 2.99.

If Britton doesn't suck the next six days, he's going to win.

They don't vote until next Monday. Come on, people.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Sep 27, 2016 -> 03:28 PM) Why was all of this in a bag? Was this a suicide? Seems like there is more to this story. Or he gives the balls to people when he parks the boat near bars/restaurants. Doesn't seem anything other than three guys in their 20's doing something extremely risky, and the worst thing possible happened.

Giants got Gordon Beckham for the last 6 games.

Shields 21 starts: 10 quality starts 66 innings, 2.05 ERA 11 non-quality starts 41.1 innings, 14.37 ERA The thing with his quality starts, a lot of them feel like he had to max out to go 6 innings and had an element of luck to get there. It's been awful.