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QUOTE (Benchwarmerjim @ May 11, 2013 -> 10:00 PM) Joe Mauer has 15 hits the last 7 games, 9 of them are doubles. Where do the Sox go next?

From Day 1, I said the Sox had to be 50-38 before facing the Tigers on July 9. With the rainout, I'll lower that to 49-38. Sox would have to go 35-18. Um, yeah.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 11, 2013 -> 09:13 PM) If people go I want Kenny Williams gone from organization with no say so on any player decisions EVER again! If I could have one wish of just one move, including never hearing Hawk or Farmer again, I would take having KW leave the Sox forever first.

I'm very confident saying Flowers won't be with the White Sox organization in spring training, 2014.

QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ May 11, 2013 -> 09:09 PM) Hawk, who gives a s*** if Gillaspie is available? FRIERI OWNS LEFTIES. How is everyone ignoring this? We've had 3 lefties face Frieri, all of them struck out. TWTW

Shocker

QUOTE (fathom @ May 11, 2013 -> 08:53 PM) With Jacob Turner looking like a bust candidate, that trade for Sanchez and Infante looks incredible for them. Be bad, get some stars, get good, add on...sounds like a plan.

Oh boy, here goes Hawk.

Here come the Tigers.

And now the bullpen has to hold them for nine outs, while we try to scratch out a couple runs.

Way to do something with a 2-0 count, Oaf.

Nice job by Quintana. Dealt a bad hand tonight.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ May 11, 2013 -> 07:54 PM) Has the majority of you given up on the season? Serious question. It's not a matter of giving up. It's a matter of recognizing this team can't get to 88 wins, which is probably the minimum to win a 2nd wildcard spot. They're an awful team.

Does anything really need to be said?

Verlander with a turd tonight.

I know it probably won't happen, but I'd love it if Dunn would agree to some buyout just to get him to retire and we (and the world) don't have to watch him play anymore.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 11, 2013 -> 04:16 PM) That's like saying, I'm only going to agree to produce a movie script if it's profitable. C'mon. Adam Dunn made a lot of sense. Josh Hamilton or Zach Greinke might have improved the team...and you would have been in favor of the Sox making a splash and signing either of those two players. How do you feel Keppinger at SS or Danks in CF would possibly be an improvement? Peavy traded and replaced by Axelrod/John Danks? You've just added another 8-10 losses to this year's total record. Do you actually care if the Sox win 71 games instead of 81? The goal should be 90 wins every year. The average 2nd wild card in the AL the last 12 years (if there were two wildcards) is 90 wins. The average AL Central winner the last 12 years is 92 wins. If you take the lower of the two the last 12 years, the average is 89 wins. I'll take that in the AL Central. 89-73 or better, or there's no point in fielding a veteran team.

Buehrle pitched 7 shutout innings at Fenway. Walked the leadoff man in the 8th. Oliver came in and gave up a triple. So one run earned, and he'll probably come away with a no decision. And his team will lose. Jays won..wow.

And it's over. Hit up the middle.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 11, 2013 -> 03:11 PM) 16.1 hitless innings in a row for Rockies offense. Just about to say. That's incredible.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 11, 2013 -> 12:06 PM) Liriano going for the Pirates today in his first start of the season for them. He's pitching great today. We know it'll get worse.

Rios, Peavy, Thornton, and Crain will be traded by the deadline. Mark it down.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 11, 2013 -> 10:38 AM) Why on Earth people have already concluded the White Sox can't be competitive in 2014 is beyond me. They have $30 million+ coming off the books already if they don't move anyone and they're loaded with pitching. I'm getting to the point of agreeing about Ventura though. Well, maybe they could compete in 2014. Depends on what moves they can make. But my expectations are low until they can get Adam Dunn off this roster. He's a team killer.

What I would do... Keep Chris Sale and Hector Santiago Since they aren't going to compete in 2013 or 2014, try to make good deals with the rest of the roster--not necessarily trading all of them, but listen on anyone else on the roster, and try to build a winner for 2015--but also have an organization in place that's better suited to compete every year. Hopefully over the next couple years, some of the players the Sox drafted come along, Erik Johnson, Scott Snodgress, Chris Bassitt, Chris Beck, Micah Johnson, of course Courtney Hawkins, Trayce Thompson, Keenyn Walker....and then further along some of the international signings they made last year get in the system and produce some fruit. In my opinion, it's time for the Sox to take their medicine for a couple years (not five). Keep in mind this will be five years without the postseason, and the Sox are a coin flip away from not making the postseason since 2005. So whatever they've been doing hasn't worked. As far as the front office, I'm not down on Hahn yet. It's an incomplete grade at this point. I wish Kenny Williams would leave the organization, so there's a clear decision maker in Hahn. And of course Ventura will be out after 2013 or 2014. I'm hoping he steps aside after this season.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 10, 2013 -> 10:54 PM) It was nice seeing Viciedo back. I can't believe they're still batting Keppinger 2nd. It's over 100 ABs into the season, it's not like this is just a bad week. I really hope Konerko gets it going this season, as I don't want his last year here to be embarrassing for him. I agree about Konerko. I hope he has a good season, but not so good that it'll be hard to say goodbye. Hit .265, 22HR, knock in 80, and call it a career.