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QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 2, 2014 -> 12:40 PM) It has not worked from day 1, since Sox announced the dynamic pricing policy. Cubs/sox went from $35 to $19 this year. The system does work. Just not always in your favor.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jun 2, 2014 -> 03:19 PM) They don't care about the guy that goes to a game here and there, it affects the season ticket holders greatly though as well as tv viewership. They have to make it where the expectation is to get the game over in 2:45 or less Tv likes longer games. More ads to sell

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ May 30, 2014 -> 09:09 AM) Pros - At the height of his value given age/contract status/performance/track record Reasonable contract that will fit into almost any teams payroll Would bring the best return of anyone on the roster outside of Sale and Abreu The market for starting pitching may be crazy this summer with all of the injuries that have happened to other starters on contending teams. Cons - Quality starting pitching is hard to find for a reasonable amount Prospect laden deals are hit and miss, emphasis on the miss Contract makes he and Sale very affordable through 2020 Seeing as I just bought a bunch of his autograph cards, no.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 27, 2014 -> 07:09 AM) Apparently Sox fans are more patriotic and chose to do things more memorable than baseball. Pricing was higher than a normal Monday. That's always a factor.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 25, 2014 -> 07:59 PM) As of a couple of days ago, our attendance was down 17.6% year over year. Now, it's probably closer to 13-15% down (including Sat/Sun). And, with all that that said, we still would need to average around 23,000 per month for the rest of the year to get to the 2013 attendance total of 1.76 million. From this point last season (where the 8 game losing streak hit), the attendance average actually was lower for the final 57 games (by about 500) than the average for the first 23. Warm weather is finally upon us, and the team looks to be much more competitive than last year's. i suspect attendance will perk up a bit. don't forget the sox gave out a ton of comps in april and may, and those butt sin seats don't apply to the posted attendance.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ May 26, 2014 -> 01:04 AM) Wrigley most likely has crimes related to alcohol- public intoxication, DUI's, etc. The area around USCF is pretty underrated. It's not even close to being ghetto unless you go down 6-7 blocks. I have always parked on Union and 37th and have never had an issue with anyone walking to and from the game.Wrigley has more RAPES, muggings, and MURDERS than the area by Sox park.

QUOTE (flavum @ May 23, 2014 -> 12:22 PM) Fun fact: Bob Iger, one of the candidates, is married to former sports babe Willow Bay. That's all I got on this topic. Bob iger, head of f***ing Disney. The guy BOUGHT Star Wars and marvel. It would be very interesting what he can do as commissioner. But I also doubt he wants it.

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QUOTE (bmags @ May 14, 2014 -> 03:19 PM) Whew that sounds tiring. I want to ride my bike to a game but get confused which roads are good after Pilsen. I thought I was a good walker for walking to UC from Chicago and Damen all the time. By good, do you mean "not black" or "i won't get his by maniacs all day long"? Halsted is your best bet, as that's the closest to the park. Ashland and western are ok. all three have uninterrupted runs from belmont-39th. Also, all thee have bus routes, so you could take the bus for a bit too.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ May 13, 2014 -> 04:40 PM) They do average more attendance on weekends. A little over 19,000 on Fri-Sun and about 17,000 Mon-Thurs. It would be a bigger difference but the weekday total is boosted by opening day and the 2 games vs the Cubs. a 2k difference is not a major increase. if weekend attendance was 25k and up, then there would be truth to the " i cant get out on a weeknight with the kids" bulls*** excuse. Sox have put giveaways on saturdays, sometimes coupled with fireworks postgame. they offer FREE autographs for kids along side $10 parking and $5 tickets. yet all i hear are excuses that I94 traffic sucks on the weekends. it's pathetic that this fanbase keeps making excuses to not go to games. I at least respect eh guys that say " I prefer to watch on tv".

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 14, 2014 -> 02:34 PM) One good thing Rahm has done is put bike lanes on a lot of streets. Even then, it seems people driving cars get more than a little frustrated when a bike is making better time than them and try to do something about it. I don't know how many times cars have weaved into the bike lanes right in front of me. I swear they all can't be unintentional.rahm has made things WORSE. there was no need to put barriers on the bike lanes forcing parked cars to essentially be in the middle of the street. i hav eno prblem with bike lanes, but rahm used bikers as an excuse to hook up his buddies with a contract for the new barriers AND mini-snow plows that clean the bike lanes.

I have argued this on Facebook and other sites: If the weekday traffic was such an issue for suburban fans, then the park would have better attendance on weekends. But there seems to be less at the park on Sundays with reduced tix and parking on a Sunday afternoon when the kids are typically up. $30 for a family of four on a Sunday afternoon WITH PARKING should be sellouts every Sunday.

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ May 12, 2014 -> 02:02 PM) not that it matters, but do you think attendance would be higher if the ballpark would have been built in the SW suburbs instead? Orland Park/Lemont area? It would be worse. Count your blessings Addison never happened.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ May 12, 2014 -> 01:40 PM) I've talked about these things before, but from the perspective of somebody who does not live in the metro area, some things that can increase attendance: #1 (by a longshot over all the others): Since the Sox own a 20% stake in CSN, they need to very aggressively market the channel to cable/satellite providers within their "blackout area" that aren't already carrying it on the same tier as ESPN/NBCSN. I'm talking about places like Fort Wayne, Indianapolis, Lafayette, Terre Haute, Champaign, Bloomington, Springfield. Getting games on in front of TV viewers is the first step in getting them to games in person. I grew up near South Bend back when most Cubs games were on WGN and most Sox games were on SportsChannel and if my local cable company hadn't carried Sportschannel, I'd probably be a Cubs fan now instead of a Sox fan. Kids in the cities I listed above are growing up to be mostly Reds or Cardinals fans in large part because those are the teams games they can see on TV. #2: Try to get more Saturday home games in the evening. I know that national TV contracts have a lot of control over Saturday scheduling, but the Sox need to find a way to get more of the Saturday home games in the evening. Those Saturday night 6:05 fireworks games are pure gold. On Saturdays, families can go to museums/zoos during the day and Sox games in the evening, but they can't go to Sox games during the day and then the museums/zoos in the evening. #3 (which is buoyed a lot by #1): Aggressively market group outings to those cities I listed above. I know the Notre Dame Alumni Association has a Chicago outing every year and it is ALWAYS scheduled to coincide with a Cubs home game. There are probably dozens of others like this. Get them on the phone and offer them insane discounts to try switching to the Sox for one year. Especially now that the Cubs have really sucked for a few years. Time to pounce on those groups that do their yearly outings to Cubs games. #4: There are plenty of giveaways with admission, how about some giveaways with parking? 50% off (up to $10) concession stand coupons, random drawings for seat upgrades, random drawings for free VIP parking at a future game, etc. #5: Continue to work on ticket pricing. I would like to see pricing that varies by opponent go away. Make three different price levels per seating area: Friday-Saturday (highest), Monday-Thursday evening (middle), and Monday-Thursday afternoon + all Sunday (lowest). Also, for games other than Friday-Saturday, designate a few sections in the Club Box and Gold Box areas to have special lower prices that are available only as individual game purchases and in quantities of no more than 8. Give people who would never consider paying $60 each for tickets a taste of these seating areas at a discount and see if you can convince them that those seats are worth the money. Csn is on directv on the sports tier for those not in Chicago. But csn may not have the right to get on other providers in say, Indianapolis. This is an mlb issue more than a sox issue. As for groups, the sox work hard. The notre dame alumni don't want a sox game. They want a wrigley field outing. My longtime rep is a huge nd guy( his father went there). And the director of marketing is an nd alum. If they can't convince the alumni association to do a sox game, I don't know who can.

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ May 9, 2014 -> 07:09 PM) Have you ever read how reinsdorf made his money originally? He was a tax lawyer that went into real estate.

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 9, 2014 -> 06:30 PM) So Jerry gets all that income as well? There's no reason the Sox aren't huge spenders in this s*** division. Let's face it, there are some Jerry apologists on here. He got us a WS title so I like him for that and all the Bulls titles, but let's face it, he is not a "good" baseball owner. He's just not. I won't go into all the rea$ons but it's my opinion and I'm sticking to it. The sox get to split 67 millon five ways. Wow. Here we come! The "value" is based off a sale of the station. Sox get more money from the tv contract than they get from CSN revenues.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 9, 2014 -> 05:49 PM) According to Wikipedia it's 20% NBCUniversal, 20% Ricketts, 20% Wirtz, and 40% Reinsdorf The 40 percent is slit between the bulls and sox. Those are technically seperate stakes. Although the sox DO control rights of rust refusal for the 20 percent the cubs own. Meaning, the cubs have to ask the sox first when they decide to sell.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 12, 2014 -> 12:26 PM) How many fans are even aware of this? Heck, might as well try "Two for Tuesdays" or "Thirsty Thursdays," typical minor league marketing tricks to get the younger crowd in with cheaper beer. You just have to police/control it...and be very vigilant about drunken behavior, because even though it's rampant at Wrigley Field, it always seems to come back to haunt the Sox somehow. Um........ten cent beer night anyone?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 12, 2014 -> 12:31 PM) And what are they doing when he's on the DL? Serious question. Still continuing when it's his spot in the rotation? How would a fan know? They don't have it when he's on the dl. Duh!

QUOTE (SCCWS @ May 12, 2014 -> 08:00 AM) As I have posted before, the White Sox major problem is they don't sell enough coprorate season tickets. I don't mean coprorate boxes which the major companies buy, but blocks of grandstand seats usually 4+. The companies then give them out to customers employees etc. I bet teams like Boston, New York, LA etc have 15-20, 000 seats sold to businesses. The economy as well as the recent crap seasons have eroded the entire season ticket base. But yes, the corporate seats have been hit hard too. The $5 Sunday tix are to get guys like me in. Regular jackoffs But they ARE working hard to get the premium seats filled. But when companies need to cut 20k from a budget, sox tix are a likely victim.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 12, 2014 -> 07:36 AM) Why didn't the White Sox try to have a giveaway? I'm guessing they probably have fewer giveaway days because of the difficulties finding sponsorships and commitments (for 3 years) at the levels they want. 20. Toronto 21. Pittsburgh 22. Seattle 23. Oakland 28. Tampa Bay More than those teams, it's telling that Miami and Houston are significantly outdrawing the Sox. With how entertaining this White Sox team has been, compared to the Lastros, it's just kind of hard to believe. And Miami is one of the most expensive parks now, according to Fan Price Index/Team Marketing Report. Of course, the Mariners brought in Cano, but surely their fans shouldn't have been realistically expecting them to compete with the Rangers, Angels and A's this season. In fact, had the White Sox made the same move, 95% of this site would have been rebelling against it....at those years and dollars. sox had ladies bags the last 2 years. WITHOUT A SPONSOR ATTACHED.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 12, 2014 -> 06:23 AM) Honestly, I can't imagine what this season would be like without Eaton, Abreu and the #3 pick debate. You've got Sale injured, Hawkins on the precipice of disaster as a prospect (thankfully, he seems to be holding his own for now), Semien barely holding his own, Davidson flailing away in AAA and a total mess in the rotation (plus the disappointment/reduced velocity issue with Erik Johnson). Thankfully, the offense has surprised, but that's starting to fall off a bit. At least it was entertaining while it lasted. We've already had more combined thrills than the 2013 season, that's for sure. What's really amazing is comparing Sox attendance with the rest of the majors yesterday: Cincy 33,143 TB 23,679 Milwaukee 43,544 Oakland 28,205 Seattle 30,447 Pittsburgh 32,065 And those were the "lesser" teams that are usually in the same ballpark as us attendance-wise, and Milwaukee, who used to be the "weak sister' compared to Chicago. If not for a no-name Marlins team visiting San Diego, where there are so many other options for fans in terms of activities, we would have been last and not even that close. Houston, we have a problem. Some of those are recent playoff teams and have a higher STH rate. Also, the YANKEES were in a rare visit to milwaukwe( and part of a jeter farewell tour). Oh, and how many had a giveaway yesterday?

QUOTE (Tex @ May 11, 2014 -> 09:05 PM) I believe the Mother's Day attendance and our member list show that not a lot of women are huge baseball fans. Brunch, gatherings at home with all the kids seem like a more likely scenario. Female fanatics like Steff are rare. Now Father's Day treating dad to a baseball game seems much, much more likely. It's $30 for four tix and parking.

This thread has devolved into b****ing. There are a TON of ways to get in cheap and have a decent seat.

QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ May 8, 2014 -> 09:29 AM) They can say 'tickets start at $7' all they want, but if I am going to the game, I want to SEE and enjoy the game, not get nosebleeds and a workout hiking up to my seat. I haven't had to buy tickets for a few years, so imagine my shock when we went to buy tickets for this Saturday against the Diamondbacks. They want $72 for lower bowl between 3rd and outfield wall. Go a little closer to the wall and it drops to $52. Bleachers $35. Still going, but to my cheap-ass it is pretty steep. $20 to sit in the outfield. Or look for a code and save $10-15 a ticket. Or quit your b****ing and got to stubhub. You want a premium view? Expect to pay. You want to get in cheap? Expect to sit in 506.