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QUOTE (Cali @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 04:01 PM) Import Issue: What happen's with the #13 for the White Sox? Does it get the JaMarcus Russell toxic treatment where no one gets to wear it? Or is it given away right away as a slap in the face? I know greg's answer, but retiring it right away was not one of the options I gave haha I don't think Greg understands how much you have to mean to the franchise to get your number retired. Ozzie wasn't a good player when he was here and he was marginal as the manager. I don't know how that deserves getting your number retired.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:39 PM) 1.) How KW keeps his job after signing the worst player in baseball and signing Rios and Peavy ... it is just amazing. If Oz is gone, KW should be gone. Although they are spinning it that Oz left on his own. 2.) If he said it like an ass, KW is lucky Cora didn't pop him in the mouth. Cora couldn't pop himself in the mouth.

QUOTE (Real @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:57 AM) subtopic is a little off he didn't ask to be traded, nor did he resign he asked for his release and the Sox obliged They didn't even have to do that. They could have just ate the $2 million and let him not manage.

What Morel is now is pretty close to the hitter he was last season when he came up with the Sox (looking to pull the ball). He definitely got some bad advice from somebody by trying to become a slap hitter earlier in the year. But if he keeps his current approach, he should be a a decent hitter with good power.

QUOTE (Cali @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 01:15 AM) Robert Andino = New Bucky Dent? haha That guy killed us too, especially Mark Buehrle.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:05 AM) Follow the thread. Ozzie lovers didn't turn it to the darkside. This is the third post of the thread... Yeah, you tell me what the worst day of my fandom is supposed to be... Are you telling me this is worse than getting swept in the ALDS in 2000? Is this worse than nearly losing the division to the Twins in 08? Is this worse than losing the Rays in the ALDS in 08? I mean speak for yourself not for everybody like you're the majority of the consensus. Because you're clearly not.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 01:22 AM) It was one of the most dominating post seasons in MLB history. Does that buy you wins in 2012? I didn't say it meant absolutely nothing, the accomplishment will lie in the history books forever. But the objective of the front office is to produce a team that will win next year. Whatever has happened before should be irrelevant in that respect.

QUOTE (coco1997 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 03:21 AM) Bad? Mark had a couple of back to back starts in which he got knocked around, but before that he tied a franchise record with 18 consecutive games allowing just three or less runs. He was great until after the ASB. But as I said, Buehrle's been a guy who has struggled down the stretch these past few years. Most notably 2009 and this season. Sure, teams will like him for what he is, an innings eater who will put up a good ERA, but had he not been so bad as of late, his ERA would have been around 3, not near 4. That lowers his market value substantially.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 02:16 AM) LOL. This means Williams is a butt kisser. Good job, KW. You won the battle. You sucked up to the right guy, your boss, whereas Oz won't stoop to kissing anybody's butt IMO. Kenny's always quiet, what's your point? He usually doesn't say the wrong things, in comparison to Ozzie at least.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 12:33 AM) Best head to head record out of the 3 teams gets a bye if you will while the other 2 teams play a tiebreaker game with the winner playing the 3rd team for the right to go to the playoffs. If only the Angels didn't play like s*** this past week. Maybe that could have happened this year.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 12:43 AM) When I was watching the Kenny press conference, all I could think was, "why are you still here?" The guy should be gone. Period. He looked like he just woke up from a nap or something. But yeah, I wouldn't mind Kenny getting the boot either.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 27, 2011 -> 12:12 AM) Why can't the Ozzie haters say at least, "Thanks for the memories." I would think that will come in coming days or months. The man is not evil, folks. You can't take away 2005. And our favorite team's failures are not all on this man. Give him his props, please. Or consider doing so. Go look at the Ozzie appreciation thread...almost everyone has.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 11:52 PM) 1.) He should hold out for 4 years. I still wouldn't be surprised if it's four year deal. Three years ain't bad, though. 2.) Give me a break. He will manage there a long, long time IMO. Great part of the country; he likes NL ball; team gets very little media attention so no need for him to be stressed. 3.) How do u know? It's not official yet. At least give me credit if it's announced 4 years like u are calling me out prematurely. If you have predicted that Ozzie will win multiple World Series in Florida, how is it preposterous for Milk to state that he could get fired? After all, Ozzie's gotten more fines, suspension, and bad publicity than the number of World Series he has won.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 11:37 PM) TLR is just a poor choice for the direction the Sox need to go Exactly. At this point, the Sox need to have a mix of young guys and vets. Look at what happened with Arizona this year. We can still win next year in a new environment with some fresh blood under the right circumstances. It doesn't have to be a rebuild, it just has to be a year where we are conservative in free agency and let the younger players (De Aza, Viciedo, Flowers, Reed) play everyday to gain experience. Plus, if Rios and Dunn ever figure out how to swing a baseball bat again, this team can go somewhere. They still have a good enough pitching staff to win and they have enough talent to win what is a bad division. Anything can happen, but it all starts with who we hire as the manager.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 11:35 PM) Strong comments from Hawk against Ozzie. Basically said Ozzie changed the last few years and that the players didn't like it when Ozzie asked for the new contract after they won five straight games. said the team was starting to pressure the Tigers and that wasn't the time for Ozzie to pop off. Wasn't it Cowley that said KW is the one that changed after 05 and Ozzie has been the same guy? lawl. Ozzie can take Cowley with him.

With Mark being so bad lately, there's actually a good chance we can retain him. I don't know if many other teams will go that hard after him knowing that he will break down in the second half of the season.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 11:30 PM) Not for one second did Hawk say that this was the wrong move. Doesn't Hawk like Ozzie a lot?

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 11:28 PM) Ozzie expected to be named manager after Wednesday's game for Florida. A three year deal. Hey, Greg was just a year off!

QUOTE (3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 11:26 PM) Not going to happen but I'd like Bobby V or even Brenly. I don't really want Tony LaR. I'd actually even prefer some young unknown to him. We should be rebuilding anyways. Getting LaRussa says the Sox are still in denial and not completely moving forward yet I honestly would not mind Brenly. Valentine is meh to me. Ultimately, I like Dave Martinez. Former Sox player and coached under Joe Maddon (Maddon actually gives him a lot of credit). Definitely somebody that I think will fit right in with this organization.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 11:26 PM) Sources confirm Cora will join Oz in Miami. He can take Walker with him.

Buddy Bell...ugh.

People in Boston must want to murder Robert Andino right now.

I'm hoping for the Cardinals to pull this thing out. Too bad they can't win against the f***ing Astros.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 11:13 PM) Actually, Ozzie said by far the thing he'd miss the most is the players. Carry on greg But he's so honest!

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Sep 26, 2011 -> 09:37 PM) Hooker Finder. It's called Craigslist.