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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 3, 2010 -> 05:49 PM) Wait, he meant those guys can play CF? I thought we were talking RF? I know BearSox ain't that delusional. He listed those guys as RFers with the ability to play CF.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 3, 2010 -> 05:11 PM) Just from the top of the head, don't hold me to these names as I am going off of memory and throwing out possibilities. -Ichiro Suzuki (already mentioned) -Nick Markakis (already mentioned) -Hunter Pence (already mentioned) -J.D. Drew (at least in his younger, healthier days he was a stud) -Ryan Sweeney (plays a great corner OF and a solid CF) -Shin-Soo Choo (great arm, solid range) -Justin Upton (Freak) -Andre Ethier (Great arm, unsure about his range though. Probably better than Dye and Quentin though, but thats not saying much) -Jayson Werth (Pretty sure he has good range, not sure about his arm though) -Jay Bruce (Good range I think and solid arm) -Rick Ainkiel (when healthy, great athlete) -Carlos Gonzalez (not sure about arm, but I believe he has great range) -Jeff Francouer (great arm, probably lacking in range) -Brad Hawpe (not certain on this one, but IIRC, he has a great arm and pretty good range) -Tyler Colvin (seems to be a very solid corner outfielder) -Jason Heyward (stud) And there are some CF's who could fit into this equation as well. If we got our hands on a STUD CF, we could move our very own very good CF in Alex Rios back to RF where he was likely one of the best in the league. Nate McLouth is mediocre in CF, but would likely be at least above average in RF. You have to be kidding me with the bolded ones. If you think Hawpe can play CF, then Jermaine Dye can play CF too, how would you like that? Again arm doesn't mean s*** when you can't get to a baseball that isn't hit in a 5 foot vicinity of where you are standing. Jeff Francouer has no range, Andre Ethier has no range, and Brad Hawpe is the worst outfielder in baseball when it comes to range. Ankiel also isn't the greatest CFer around. He has a great arm, but like I said, if no catch then the arm doesn't matter most of the time. Intimidation plays a part in base running, but catching the ball is far more important. Outside of Ichiro, Sweeney, and maybe Justin Upton, none of the guys you listed would be good center fielders, they don't possess the range. They'd be at least mediocre, but nothing more.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jul 3, 2010 -> 03:31 PM) I like uruguay to beat the netherlands. I still think Spain will take the whole thing. With no Suarez? Unless they get lucky, I don't see it.

Well, it's probably going to be an all-European final.

Randy Wells...? WTF?

Wow, the Bulls really do know LeBron well. Cartoons and inside jokes are one thing, but the challenge of becoming a legend is on a whole other level.

Well, I'm kinda pissed cause I wanted to see Argentina and Spain in the semis.

QUOTE (sircaffey @ Jul 3, 2010 -> 12:52 PM) Poor Chris Bosh...The chicks didn't ask him for his autograph. He looks a little disturbed by that. Well, he looked like a raptor that was short on food. I don't blame the chicks. A lot of people know Wade, not many know Bosh. That's what you get for playing in Canada.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jul 3, 2010 -> 12:41 PM) I'd STILL take Ichiro even though he's almost 40. Ichiro RULES. I got a sneaky suspicion that LaRoche will be here by the end of next week. I hope your Spidey senses are right.

http://www.tmz.com/2010/07/03/dwyane-wade-...go-bulls-video/ I'm surprised that the TMZ guys didn't get punched by a security guard or something.

QUOTE (Vance Law @ Jul 3, 2010 -> 12:12 PM) Not that their opinion has any bearing, but here's Fangraphs on what LaRoche would likely cost: "Because his numbers have taken a dip since his strong April, Arizona will likely have to take a B- or C-level prospect for LaRoche." http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/t...deserve-a-shot/ Less that what I expected.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Jul 3, 2010 -> 10:35 AM) I couldn't tell for sure, but it looked like the ball deflected off his face to Borbon so unless he plays soccer in his spare time, I doubt he was trying to do much of anything. Or maybe I just need to watch the replay again It would have been funnier if it went off his face.

TMK! BTW, that ball Vlad hit that Rios almost got to really shows just how much range Alex has. There's only a couple of CFers that can get remotely close to a ball like that. And Hamilton's play in the 9th...that wasn't the best read and he should have trapped the ball instead of trying to deflect it to Borbon.

I go away for 3 hours and this is what happens? God damn...

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 2, 2010 -> 03:58 PM) @LeBrontoChicago - Sources: Bulls Have Carlos Boozer locked up if they want him! Link To come! The Link That's good to know. At this point, with Bosh trying to make nothing but money and Amare going to NY for a max deal, Boozer makes the most sense since he won't get a max and we would still have room for LeBron.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 2, 2010 -> 03:57 PM) After looking at this lineup up and down, we need a lot more help than just 1 bat. This offense would still suck if we just added Dunn or Fielder. As for Freddy, whether we are in it or not, I'd be more than willing to trade him for a decent prospect. Some team in bad need for pitching would probably give up something decent for him, and while he has been solid for us, he shouldn't be considered a key piece of the rotation if we make a run for it or not. The only way we are gonna make a run for a playoff spot is with the front 4. If the front 4 don't preform, it won't matter what the f*** Freddy does. You're absolutely correct on the bat thing. We need a guy like DeJesus up top.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 2, 2010 -> 03:53 PM) Oh, I know Quentin is no master at reads or routes either. But from what I've seen, Quentin is better at getting good reads and takes better routes than DeJesus. But DeJesus makes up for that and some with his speed. And his arm is well below average, especially for RF. Accuracy also counts. Carlos might have a good arm, but he's inaccurate as hell.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 2, 2010 -> 03:21 PM) I'm sorry, but I'm not buying the 15 run difference. Would DeJesus provide more range, sure. But he is far from a graceful OF himself and is not that good at judging fly balls and taking good routes. And, as already mentioned, his arm is lacking. I agree that DeJesus probably would save more runs than Quentin due to the fact he has more range and thus cut down on some doubles. But I don't see it being that much of a difference, based on other things: Range = DeJesus Arm = Quentin Reads = Quentin Routes = Quentin If Quentin was actually making good throws and holding runners, I'd probably prefer him in RF this season over DeJesus. However, Quentin, while his arm is stronger, hasn't made enough solid throws and assists from the OF for me to prefer him. However, it would be nice to have a defensive stud in RF. Quentin doesn't get great reads or run the best routes, that's part of why his range sucks. Range ratings are the combination of speed, reads, and route running, they all lend a hand in the equation. And what's all this crap about DeJesus having a terrible arm, it's not even bad... UZR ARM Rating has him as a +6.1 over his career. He has a slightly below average arm for a center fielder and a right fielder, but he has a very good left fielder's arm.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 2, 2010 -> 03:03 PM) Just my thoughts: I dont think the BUlls go after Bosh unless they have LeBron. Oh, I know. But I'm just saying, if no LeBron, then I would definitely take Bosh and Turkoglu.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 2, 2010 -> 01:26 PM) Bernsie just said apparently there is some mumblings about the Raptors being willing to take Deng (plus probably picks and other players) for Bosh and Hedo Turkoglu. Well, that seems like a good backup plan in case James says no. We get ourselves a decent outside shooter and Bosh.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 2, 2010 -> 11:34 AM) Um, he could get killed. Depends on how much money the cartels had on the game. But he's just at likely to get killed by a random bum. He probably won't die unless argentina advances. He plays for an Italian series A club, it's not like he's piss poor and a nobody.

Well, that definitely sucks for Brazil.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 2, 2010 -> 10:33 AM) Really? Brazil has some rough areas. Remember Andres Escobar? I wouldn't say Colombia = Brazil. Brazil does have some terrible crime, but it's a far more advanced and civilized country as a whole.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 2, 2010 -> 10:31 AM) I have genuine concern for Felipe Melo's family. Oh come on, it's not North Korea. He'll be hated forever, but nothing will happen to them.

Brazil's in some deep s*** now.