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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 21, 2010 -> 09:02 PM) Adding DeJesus is not going to come cheaply. How much better is he really going to be than Pierre? I think we can expect that Pierre will be pretty decent....considering how poorly he started. And that's where you have that calculus....if Dunn/LaRoche/Scott, etc., aren't going to put us over the top, then DeJesus certainly isn't going to do the trick either. And they're going to ask for Flowers/Hudson or something like that, certainly not justifiable in a season where we've been pretty bad except for this recent 10-1 stretch against inferior competition. Fielder would be a typical KW move, but budgetarily the numbers just don't make any sense going forward. I think this is one of those seasons you have to stick with what you have and hope that Quentin/Beckham can get going and Viciedo can hold his own, with Vizquel spelling him defensively. A LOT better. At this point, DeJesus is a guy who is at least a 2-3 win upgrade over Pierre. And Carlos isn't producing runs, he's just driving them in. Run production and RBI differ in a A LOT of ways.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jun 21, 2010 -> 06:06 PM) That Twins team got some absurd 2nd half numbers (mostly batting average) out of EVERYONE in their lineup including some seemingly mediocre players. 5 starters (Morneau, White, Mauer, Hunter and Cuddyer) put up .850+ OPS's, Morneau hit .342, White .321 and Mauer .311. Then the absurd: their backup catcher (Redmond) hit .321 in 21 starts, Luis Castillo hit .314 with a .375 OBP at the top, Jason Bartlett hit .309, Nick "no bat" Punto hit .285 with a .332 OBP as their everyday 3B and Jason f***ing Tyner hit .312 in 321 PA. The team as a whole hit .316/.363/.474/.838 in July. When you have THAT many fluky performances and throw in the MVP of the league, Cy Young award winner, a catcher who wins the f***ing batting title, a rookie stater with a 208 ERA+ and a closer with a 0.79 WHIP and 12.5 K/9 you're going to win a s*** ton of games. It's surprising that Rondell White hit so well...

QUOTE (SHIPPS @ Jun 21, 2010 -> 06:25 PM) This read like a computer coding for some computer program to me. But when I read slowly it made a s*** load of sense. class Kalapse_post{ public static void main(String args[]){ System.out.println("That Twins team got some absurd 2nd half numbers (mostly batting average) out of EVERYONE in their lineup including some seemingly mediocre players. 5 starters (Morneau, White, Mauer, Hunter and Cuddyer) put up .850+ OPS's, Morneau hit .342, White .321 and Mauer .311. Then the absurd: their backup catcher (Redmond) hit .321 in 21 starts, Luis Castillo hit .314 with a .375 OBP at the top, Jason Bartlett hit .309, Nick "no bat" Punto hit .285 with a .332 OBP as their everyday 3B and Jason f***ing Tyner hit .312 in 321 PA. The team as a whole hit .316/.363/.474/.838 in July. When you have THAT many fluky performances and throw in the MVP of the league, Cy Young award winner, a catcher who wins the f***ing batting title, a rookie stater with a 208 ERA+ and a closer with a 0.79 WHIP and 12.5 K/9 you're going to win a s*** ton of games."); }} There's some computer coding for ya.

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jun 21, 2010 -> 05:09 PM) All Time we're 5-6 vs Zambrano, 4-1 vs Dempster and 2-9 vs Lilly. Wow, we really do suck against Lilly don't we? I think we take 2 of 3.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Jun 21, 2010 -> 11:29 AM) Until they show they can beat Minny or Detroit in the 2nd half of the season, I'm still out. Just don't think this team has enough offensively, and you can't rely on the pitching to be as good as it's been over the past week and a bit. Well, they are 5-4 against those two teams. It's the teams we're supposed to be beating (KC, Cleveland) that have killed us this year. Take away our 4-8 record against Cleveland and we're 4 games over. If we had won 4 out of 6 against KC, we'd be 6 over.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 13, 2010 -> 08:09 PM) Fangraphs updated UZR for catchers significantly this year. There's no such thing as catcher UZR. The fielding aspect for catchers that you see on FanGraphs is a component of Plus/Minus.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Jun 21, 2010 -> 10:12 AM) LaRoche strikes out a lil too much... and that's against NL pitching. I'll take the strike outs if he can hit for good power. Besides, Dunn strikes out even more and he's not projected to be that much better of a hitter than LaRoche this year.

Toews is going to be on the cover of NHL 11. Kane, now Toews. It's a first in EA sports history to have two guys on the same team on the cover in back to back years.

Two of the best young arms in baseball. Should be a good one.

So the Yankees aren't interested anymore? I just love it when the Yankees own the Twins in every facet of the game, including stealing players.

If only those N. Korean players can defect without having their families killed or something.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 20, 2010 -> 09:54 PM) Can we please stop talking about Lance Berkman until he starts hitting at all? He has been back for almost two months and he hais still been awful. His power numbers are worse than Andruw Jones. Until he figures out what he did in the past, he is not very useful. I agree with this. The only benefit to this is that he'll be less expensive. But we really don't know if he'll ever rebound given his age and his regression since last year.

QUOTE (beautox @ Jun 20, 2010 -> 09:49 PM) Does anyone think KW might try his hand at gambling again when the tribe put Hafner on waivers? hoping to party like its 2006 again ala Rios? If so the sox would be on the hook for the pro ration of 2010's $11.5M, $13M for 2011, $13M for 2012 and at the very least 2.75 for 2013. Also i would be pro Austin Kearns and Russell Branyan for CQ+ Hafner is too expensive. He'd be a decent guy to have, since he'll post a decent OPS/wOBA for a DH, but at that price? Hell no.

Count me in.

This is definitely interesting. Will we have a Mike Leake on our hands?

Looks like we got to .500 ahead of schedule. So realistically, we should probably go 3-3 on this homestand. We'd be lucky to go 4-2. And I expect a sweep of KC. So 6-3 the rest of the way until July?

QUOTE (Felix @ Jun 20, 2010 -> 04:13 PM) That's because the numbers aren't right. Buehrle: 4.1 Danks: 4.3 Floyd: 3.4 Garcia: 5.3 Peavy: 4.6 http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CH...-pitching.shtml Even if you go by RS/IP, they still aren't the right ones. I don't know where they came from. Buehrle: 4.2 Danks: 4.5 Floyd: 2.8 Garcia: 5.5 Peavy: 4.8 They're from ESPN. I knew they wouldn't get it right...

Sox pitching should only get better. The White Sox have a team FIP of 3.89 (third best in the AL). Our team ERA is 4.41, which is somewhere near the bottom. That's a difference of .52 between ERA and FIP, which is the 4th largest differential in baseball. So I think we should expect our pitching to do like it has during this streak for a little longer. It'll even out eventually, but our xFIP suggests that we should be a team with a ERA in the low 4s.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 20, 2010 -> 03:57 PM) Maybe we're really bad against bullpens? Are those the runs scored from the start of the game to the end of the game during his start or are those the runs scored while he was in the game divided by the amount of innings the guy's pitched?

We're averaging 4.3 runs per game. Something about those numbers isn't right.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jun 20, 2010 -> 03:41 PM) It actually is a surprise. Not the order of pitchers but the runs per game. I figured it would range from the low 3s to the high 3s. I guess our offense isn't that bad?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 20, 2010 -> 03:29 PM) Holy [Ozzie Word]. That is a high number. Considering our offense, yes it is.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jun 20, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) Maybe Garcia is just facing a lot of the other team's 4th-5th starters. That's what I thought.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 20, 2010 -> 03:21 PM) Best 5th starter in baseball? Team record by starter: Garcia 9-4 Danks 7-6 Buehrle 7-7 Peavy 7-7 Floyd 4-10 34-34. Who would have thunk it 12 days ago when the Sox were 24-33? Awesome. I think the team just hits better when Freddy's on the mound. Garcia's getting 7.15 runs per start. Highest of any of our starters and 20th in all of baseball.

This is easily a 90 win team in the NL. This next series against Atlanta will be big. If we can win this series, Kenny should really think about getting some pieces.