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Two years in a row now where we have made an exception for Wise. And yet he hasn't really rewarded us with much of anything.

If the Sox take the Carlos Marmol approach to Price, we should be fine. David Price is very similar to Marmol this year. Mid 90s fastball with a slider that's wicked but usually outside of the zone. But if he's got the good slider that stays in the zone tonight, we might be screwed.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 20, 2009 -> 12:33 PM) Stick a fork in Bartolo. He done. Yeah that's absolutely horrible. No strikeouts...?

Over the last 5, it's Johan. But over the last couple, it has to be either Lincecum, Haren, or Halladay.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 05:37 PM) They still need pitching, not of the Halladay variety, but a guy like Harang would be a decent pickup for them . Gallardo is fine as a #1. But yeah, they need a solid #2. They basically have one #1, 2 #3s at best, and 2 5th starters. I don't know if you can even call Parra a fifth starter.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 05:19 PM) Brewers just got Felipe Lopez for Two prospects. Fantastic pickup by the Brew Crew. He's been a decent leadoff hitter this season.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 03:27 PM) Atta boy Getz. Crushes a homerun. He made up for his boneheaded defensive play.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 03:25 PM) Im just curious why you picked 2005? How did he do the last 3 years as well? Because 2005 is the only year that they released their entire stat sheet for plus/minus to the public for free. You have to pay to see any other year.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 03:23 PM) Everyone okay with T-Pain as a nickname for Tony Pena, or is it back to the drawing board? T-Painya?

Guthrie came into this game 0-3 with a 6.00 ERA against us lifetime. Where did he find this magic all of a sudden?

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 03:11 PM) Let me ask this question: does anyone on here think Poreda should actually be in the majors right now? If no one objects, can we just talk about more fun things like Quentin returning and the invention of the peep hole video camera? He should probably be off the roster once Colon comes back...

God that 5th inning sucked. Had Jose not given up that single to Jones, we might still might be tied.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 18, 2009 -> 09:54 PM) I understand he is lacking in regards of range compared to most of the other SS. But range is only one facet of defense. He hardly misplays a ball he can get to. Last year, according to "The Fielding Bible",Jeter only misplayed 17 balls he got to (not counting Errors), which was best among everyday SS's in the MLB. And if you added Errors, he's still the best of all MLB short stops. He'll have to move to 2B when he really slows down even more, but for the past 10 years or so, I'd say he's been perfectly fine there. Sure, he doesn't have great or range and his arm leaves something to be desired. But he makes all the routine plays, is usually the smartest player on the field, and is the leader of the infield. And like I already stated, he made up for whatever he lacked on D with his bat. He's not a horrible fielder or a butcher out there, but he isn't a GG. There's been countless analysis on Jeter. Basically, Jeter does the things you said he does well. He makes the plays he can get to. Thing is, how many balls did he not get to? That's the thing. It's great that he made the plays on the balls he could get to, but when he can't get to a ball that a fairly average SS can get to, you have yourself a problem. According to Bill James and his Plus/Minus system, Jeter missed 93 routine plays in 2005. That's a whole lot of plays to be missing when a normal SS would have no problems getting to the ball. Jeter has a lot of good intangibles and he's one of the best offensive SS in our era. But that doesn't excuse him from being a totally below average SS.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 02:59 PM) Yankees took the lead, 2-1. It's pretty fun rooting for them. Yeah, I've found that out too. It's a little weird.

This team always seems to mail it in when they've won the series. Every interview I hear, players are out to "win series". Yeah, we get it, but you should sweep the Orioles when they're the worst road team in the AL and have a pitcher on the mound with a ERA above 5.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 02:50 PM) What is our starting pitchers' ERA at now? Seems like it's probably gone up .25 points or so in the last 7 games. Our lowest team ERA this year was like 3.96. That was only a couple of weeks ago. It's now up to 4.2 something.

QUOTE (Benchwarmerjim @ Jul 19, 2009 -> 02:47 PM) you guys can forget about winning the division now, the Twins signed Mark Grudzielanek At least he's a better hitter than Nick Punto. Not a horrible signing.

If we're not going to give Poreda regular work, send him down. Because those 2 walks were a perfect example of why he shouldn't be in the bullpen. Seriously, our long relief has been complete utter s***. Walks out of the bullpen almost hurt more than grand slams.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 18, 2009 -> 09:28 PM) Considering he's never played a single pitch at SS in his Major League career, that's a pretty big stretch. You don't have to be very good to be better than Derek Jeter. If you take a look at his UZR numbers and his Plus/Minus numbers from the past, it would scare you. Here's a glimpse into how bad he has been... In the past three seasons, Derek Jeter is a -68 at SS in terms of Plus/Minus. Nobody has been worse. The next closest is Hanley Ramirez at -40. Jeter has a career UZR of -39.3 and that's only been over 8 seasons since they started recording the stat. His UZR/150 is -5.7. That means he's going to give up at least 6 runs a year due to his defense. Of course, he does make up for it on offense. This has been the only year in which his UZR is actually above 0, but I don't know how much longer that will last.

And the Cubs have won again against those awesome Nationals. Randy Wells got hit around.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jul 18, 2009 -> 09:25 PM) I wouldn't say he is bad. He's certainly no GG'er out there and is over hyped by the media, but he makes most of the routine plays with a few great players here and there, is very smart out there, and acts like the leader of the INF the SS needs to be. Plus, his bat certainly makes up for what you lose in D. You can do a whole lot worse at SS than Derek Jeter. If Gordon Beckham can play SS as good as Jeter, I'd be f***ing ecstatic. I'm pretty sure Gordon's already better.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jul 18, 2009 -> 09:13 PM) On Baseball Tonight, they're trying to say that Derek Jeter isn't a bad defensive shortstop. He's been decent this year, surprisingly. But historically, no.

QUOTE (beck72 @ Jul 18, 2009 -> 08:32 PM) I was on board to go after him. The sox could have made a decent offer. Two slap hitting outfielders? No thanks.

Wouldn't it be something for Milwaukee to acquire two big name pitchers in two straight years and still not win anything? Talk about giving up the future for an NL Central title... Their rotation still wouldn't look that good with Halladay. 1. Halladay 2. Gallardo 3. Bush 4. Suppan 5. Looper The Cards' rotation can certainly compete with that.

5-0 now on Fox Saturday Baseball. If it means a win, I'll take Dick Stockton's horrible play by play. Bobby's starting to worry me a little bit. But then again, he's always bad against the O's.