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QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 8, 2015 -> 02:37 PM) This is about the only year I'm totally fed up with the organization, though it is very depressing they didn't build on '05. I almost have to agree with those who said it was a wonderful fluke. I mean the Blackhawks have shown how you should play during your "window" of excellence. Sox haven't done squat since winning it all and this year with the unexplainable roller coaster has been the worst type of year for a fan. It's been hard to enjoy baseball this year because of this. The Central Division has owned us again except for the, again wacky, 4-game sweep of Cleveland. This organization blows and it just has to get rid of Robin after the season because there's really no hope with him at the helm -- too dysfunctional a team with lousy fundamental skills. It's a no brainer. He doesn't need the money. Many managers have been fired and many more will in the future. That 2006 was awesome. I'm not going to fault them for winning 90 games and missing the playoffs.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 12:13 PM) There was talk about writers doing favors for ownership in their articles. This is one I think is 100% a favor to the White Sox. For sure. Levine was spoon fed the Melky Cabrera deal in the offseason and also had the KW/Toronto stuff. Sox use Levine for stuff all the time

I have absolutely no idea how much $$ they want to spend. I'd stay away from QO free agents. I do believe that they plan on competing though. Cespedes would interest me for the OF without the QO attached. Zobrist and Guerero would interest me at 3B. Chris Davis as a DH option minus LaRoche would interest me as well. Maybe this is finally the year that Rick Hahn acquires Jason Castro. With Castro and Flowers, the White Sox would have 2 of the best pitch framers in baseball. Whether we all agree or not, they are not going to waste this rotation. They'll try and compete. It's what they do. Does this team have enough power? 1. Adam Eaton CF 2. Carlos Sanchez 2B 3. Jose Abreu 1B 4. Ben Zobrist 3B 5. Melky Cabrera LF 6. Jason Castro C 7. Avisail Garcia RF 8. Rotating DH (Micah, Trayce) 9. Tyler Saladino SS Is that enough to go with a rotation of: Sale/Quintana/Rodon/Fister,Kennedy type/Johnson and a bullpen with Robertson, Duke, Montas, and Jones at the back end?

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 10:21 AM) Quick bottom line take on Ramirez. If you think the Sox will contend next year, maybe you sign him and hope for the best. If not, you don't. Why sign him and take away playing time for youngsters in order to win 75 games? Personally, I don't think Kenny is going anywhere. Robin isn't going anywhere. This team has gaping holes to fill at catcher, third base, DH and they are going to need another starting pitcher (Shark is gone). They are going to have to do this with less money since a lot of folks who bought season tickets this off season aren't coming back. JR is also still going to be "heavily involved" (Hahn's words from yesterday) is trying to fix this as well. I don't think the Sox are going to contend next season either...so why waste money on Ramirez? Mark Because they think they are.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 10:09 AM) I already (semi-jokingly) the other sports that go on at the time. However, if you're not a fan of Chicago sports teams in the winter, then I guess you could be more entertained. Anyway, wouldn't you rather be watching a game than following Winter Meetings rumors? Honestly, when the team is bad, I think I'd rather follow Hot Stove rumors.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 08:35 AM) No, that is why I am asking if anyone read it so they could share it with us I just posted something in the interview thread as well. Check there.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 12:32 PM) Thanks all for the kind words! The whole experience was a pleasure, these guys were all class and very enjoyable to talk to. Also, as a follow-up on what Spencer Adams said about his delivery, ESPN's Keith Law noted when he scouted Adams recently that he is now pitching from the third base side of the pitching rubber as opposed to the first base side like he did in high school. Law says that is better for his deception but worse for his arm, as he is coming across his body more and "cutting himself off." Concerning, but sounds like J.R. Perdew and Spencer are aware of it and it is something they are working on. For the record, Adams was Keith Law's #94 prospect coming into the season. Law said that Adams had "Good control of ordinary stuff". Said he was 87-91 of mostly two-seamers. He had a fringy change up and below average slider. Law mentioned that there is still potential but it's a step backward from where he was before.

I'd pick up Alexei's option. He could easily out produce that number and they don't have anyone to play there instead of him. Hopefully, he has a decent year and they can move him. Not picking it up and going with a utility player (Saladino) doesn't really make sense to me though.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Sep 9, 2015 -> 08:09 AM) Did anyone happen to read the Keith Law blurb on Spencer Adams yesterday? Did you read what it said?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 08:33 PM) I don't think there's any way he coaches on a 1 year deal. Even if it's just a 1 year extension, they'll add a year. This is a good point. They'll either extend him or move on. I fully expect him to be back but Hahn has stated that all options are on the table. I think they'd probably just say he's coming back if he were for sure.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 09:09 PM) The Sox are out of the race, they won't make the playoffs, etc. Game threads have gone down to My point is, I know we're not in the playoff race, but actually try to watch/follow/enjoy these final few weeks of Sox games, because a few months from now, we'll all be dying for White Sox baseball. Mid December is the baseball offseason (Hot Stove), NFL football, and hoops. I'll be just fine with no baseball for awhile.

My plan would start with not giving away any draft picks period. I'm not signing a free agent with a QO. I'd rather sign Cespedes and a FA RHP. I think the 3B, C would have to be acquired via trade. I've mentioned before that I'd like to get Alex Guerrero somehow to play 3B. I wouldn't be dealing Quintana unless I got a Puiglike return. Roll with pitching and patch together enough offense.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 10:55 AM) I think it's pretty s***ty he doesn't get more of a chance. Given the crap that some teams throw out there, and this guy can't even get a third string role somewhere? Pretty crazy. He's just not an NFL QB. He's been let go by Josh McDaniels, John Fox, Bill Belichick, Rex Ryan, and Chip Kelley. If he could play, one of those men would have kept him. He needed a position switch and just never did it.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 11:34 AM) I'm fine with it as long as we would also somehow improve upon both catcher and 1 outfielder as well. I'd look to acquire some sort of 3B. I'd look into the possibility of getting Alex Guerrero from the Dodgers somehow. He has a contract clause though that would have to be taken care of. Cespedes makes sense because he wouldn't cost a draft pick. Ideally, they could upgrade catcher and keep Flowers as the backup. I also wouldn't be opposed to moving Danks and signing a guy like Doug Fister/Ian Kennedy for the rotation. The thing that I wouldn't do is trade Quintana. I'd roll with a rotation of Sale/Q/Rodon/Johnson/Free Agent/Fulmer at some point. Back end of the bullpen with Robertson/Jones/Montas. I'd be fine with Saladino at SS but not 3B.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 09:50 AM) It isn't looking good for Kane to walk away from this with nothing. I was watching the news yesterday, and since this is going to be presented to a grand jury, the legal expert said prosecutors must be pretty confident they have enough to take it trial. Lazerus also wrote last week that the Hawks are very image conscious. Enough so to where they always have to put a Blackhawks cap on during interviews. In his story he mentioned how Hossa had to delay being questioned after a game until he found a hat. He also said he was told Kane was told that the incident in Madison was his final strike. There is a decent chance Kaner is done with the Blackhawks. So image conscious that habitual wife beater Bobby Hull is a fixture of the organization.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 5, 2015 -> 05:17 PM) If you were wondering who the last player to play for both Chicago teams in the same season--- 2003 Josh Paul The five before that... 1998 Matt Karchner 1990 Bill Long 1981 Lynn McGlothen 1977 Steve Renko 1972 Phil Regan Bonifacio is doing it as well

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 01:53 PM) Suppose the he accepts the QO. What would his status be at the end of next season? Same as right now. The White Sox could offer him a QO and receive 1st rounder.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 12:51 PM) Not really, the expected WAR is about 1. Yes maybe the Sox can make a good pick, but the chances the guy ever even makes MLB is 50/50 at best. If you can't understand why it's a valuable pick, I can't really help you.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 12:50 PM) True, forgot Barnum. My bad. Yes, this is higher than where Adams was actually taken, but Adams is already looking better than most 2nd round picks at this stage of their careers. Adams is already unusual. Absolutely. Dudes fall in the draft though. You know that. Not completely unrealistic to get a top 20 player in the early 30s. Sox could potentially add 3 bats in the top 50 or so. Even though I don't like that draft philosophy.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 12:35 PM) On the other hand, it could also give us a result such as Keenyn Walker, the White Sox most recent comp round pick. I think Barnum was their most recent comp round pick. The pick will be higher than where Spencer Adams was actually taken though. It's a very valuable selection.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/likely-scen...fice-vacancies/ Kiley McDaniel has Jerry Dipoto and Kenny Williams as most likely names in Seattle.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 08:04 AM) Agreed. That would be terrible. Imagine paying him that much to trot out there and put up a 5 ERA. It doesn't really matter though. They could still deal him after he accepts the QO or keep him all year and hope he pitches better. They'd still get the chance to make another QO after the 2016 season if he were to do that. He's not accepting the QO though. He's always wanted to be a free agent and now he has his chance.

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 08:41 AM) If there relationship was really that contentious, it's yet another stupid reason to have held onto him at the trade deadline. I could see Shark start to lose his patience with Cooper once the death spiral began in August and he realized 20+ million disappeared from his upcoming contract. Cooper, meanwhile, often has an arrogant demeanor to everyone in the media not named Hawk. I'm sure if a player acts disrespectful (in his mind) he wouldn't have any of it and leaked the info out to Kaplan. It's not stupid if they valued a top 35 pick higher than the packages being offered though. Dealing him just to deal him doesn't make any sense when there's incentive to keep him.

QUOTE (glangon @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 07:11 AM) There is a worse scenario than that. If we offer Shark the Qualifying Offer and he accepts. Think about it, he is currently the worst pitcher in baseball (according to number of earned runs given up). He has given up more earned runs (200) than any other pitcher in all of baseball. Who in their right mind would give up a compensation pick and £10 million a year for the worst pitcher in baseball. The Shark is not stupid. By accepting the Qualifying Offer, he gives himself another year in the shop window to show what he can do and encourage teams to overpay for him. The market for starting pitchers is extensive this off-season and the Shark knows, he's not going to get anything near what he thinks he is worth, especially when you can get Price, Cueto or Kazmir without giving up a comp pick. The Sox will offer him a QO and I would not be surprised if he accepts it and we are lumbered with him for another year. That would be a LOSE / LOSE No it wouldn't. It's a no brainer to give him the QO. He'll either decline and the Sox will get a pick or he'll accept and the Sox can deal him or keep him all season and repeat the QO process. The only thing that doesn't make sense is not offering him a QO.

David Kaplan is leaving WGN for ESPN 1000. Would imagine he'll get the midday slot?