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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 10, 2013 -> 10:01 AM) I think there is a problem identifying guys who are going to hit. They have developed pitching just fine, but you would think if they had drafted guys who could or would hit, considering how they have pawned off prospects on other teams, at least a couple of them over the years would have some success. I understand they like the toolsy guys who they hope to develop, but almost all their top hitting prospects since Crede and Rowand and Jeremy Reed have been huge swing and miss ridiculously high strikeout rate guys who really don't offset that with a ton of homers and a good OBP. It's almost as if they draft the same player year after year and hope this time it will be different. I'd like to see them just one draft, concentrate on baseball players the first several rounds, not athletes. Being incredibly fast or strong does you no good if you can't hit the ball, or lay off pitches out of the strike zone, or can get a decent jump. You are right. There is always a place for super athletic, toolsy players. The problem was that KW wanted athletic players and JR did not want to spend money on the draft. In turn, the Sox end up with players like Mitchell, Walker, and Thompson because of it.

The White Sox are not getting Robinson Cano. Might as well close this thread too because nothing of substance will come of it either. People arguing in a relevant thread about people being happy about the White Sox losing gets shutdown but a pipedream thread about the Sox getting a guy that will require a 10 year $300 million deal is alive and kicking? Very funny.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 8, 2013 -> 09:00 PM) The other thread was closed for a reason. Let it go. For a stupid reason. If people in the win now at all costs thread didn't like that thread why did they post in it? This is being treated like it's f***ing grade school and people can't defend themselves. I am pretty sure most of us are all adults here. And I am angry because I never got to respond to Dick Allen's idiotic comparison to the Bears.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 4, 2013 -> 03:19 PM) Rosenthal had a nice scoop but it was obvious that story was going to change quickly ... as it did. He's not giving up 15 million bucks. Odds of that are the same as the Sox winning the WS next year. He actually didn't have any scoop. Dunn never mentioned retiring after this season, even during the initial interview. It was a lazy column to attract page views.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 26, 2013 -> 06:04 PM) I go back and forth on the idea of McCann. On one hand, he's 29 already and injury prone, but on the other, he's 20 times better than any C in our system, there's no one around to clog up 1B/DH after next year, I think the team can be competitive in 2-3 seasons while he will still be able to hit, and there's a chance his contract stays reasonable if teams see him as risky at C for more than a year or two. I totally agree. What is McCann looking at? More or less than the contract that Dunn signed 3 years ago?

Jeez, must be a slow news day huh?

QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Aug 26, 2013 -> 09:00 AM) Seriously, though, how hard did the Sox go after these guys? The only one of those three that I remember hearing the Sox pursuing was Cespedes. The Sox are now in a position where they can actually and actively pursue Abreu, where in the past they did not have the necessary funds. That being said, I will be surprised if the Sox sign this guy. I think they'll be in the sweepstakes, but the price may prove to be too high. Last year, Peter Gammons tweeted that the White Sox were 2nd in the bidding for Soler at upwards of $25 million.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 25, 2013 -> 10:00 AM) Why did I think he threw in the mid-90's? Hm. He was mid 90's in HS. His arm action also makes his pitches look a lot harder as well.

Erik Johnson is a better pitcher than Andre Rienzo.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 22, 2013 -> 07:45 AM) I like watching the Sox win That's great. I like watching the Sox win when the season is not already lost. The Sox must have a top 5 pick in this draft. It just allows you to spend more $$. That is the most important thing now.

QUOTE (MAX @ Aug 18, 2013 -> 12:33 PM) I just don't think they can possibly catch those awful teams, especially houston. So that weighs into my decision for hoping to see the players on the roster do well. Another thing - if the players on the roster just suck all year enough to lose 105 games then we have more major problems than a number one pick will solve. I am fine with the #3 pick. I just don't want to fall any further than that. Need as much money to spend on the draft as possible.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 17, 2013 -> 04:49 PM) You can now say that the entire pitching staff has been through the Sox system minus Purcey and Lindstrom. Possibly Quintana? With only 37 spots occupied on the 40 man roster, Dan Hayes made it sound like Webb, Johnson, and Taylor Thompson would all be here shortly as well.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Aug 17, 2013 -> 12:29 PM) He's represented by Praver Shapiro Sports Management, twitter reports (Jeff Passan). Googol search shows they also rep Carlos Marmol, Zambrano and Wandy Rodriguez. based in Miami White Sox will be present for Abreu's showcase in September. http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox-talk/w...abreus-showcase

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 02:15 PM) Ha, we are in 100% agreement. I would add Phegley and Viciedo to the group I hope succeeds in a game. I find myself rooting hard for the Marlins and Astros of late as well. Yeah we are on the same page. Obviously, if I am watching a game I want them to win at the time. I think it's second nature. But man the Cubs are creeping up soon on that 3rd pick. Getting that 3rd pick is just pretty important in my opinion. Not just for the best chance at talent at that spot but because of the additional money you are allowed to spend.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 01:18 PM) I watch every single game beginning to end unless the Sox are losing 13-0 by the 5th inning. They had the 1st winning homestand in 3 months, that helps enjoyment level. Love the starting pitching. It's tough for me now. I don't want them to win. I want the 3rd pick in June minimum. They can't f*** up this fantastic opportunity by falling down to the 5-8 range draft pick wise. Ideally, Garcia and Beckham will do well, Dunn will hit bombs, Starting pitchers pitch well, and then Axelrod blows the game. That's my ideal scenario right now. God that sounds horrible.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 01:43 PM) Hopefully they reunite Hawk and DJ. I don't know why ESPN hired Singeton. Or why he'd leave a cushy Sunday Night Baseball gig. DJ is awful too. Hopefully they hire a young, professional PBP guy and keep Steve Stone as the analyst. Not a chance though.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 07:56 AM) Upton would be awesome but come on, she is far too busy with her modeling career at this point. Lets be realistic about it. Bruce Willis is probably a better choice. Have you seen Die Hard? He would be able to show them how to run across glass and shoot guns while jumping out of windows. US Cellular would never be the same. Willis would have all the players hitting barefoot though. Help or hurt?

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 14, 2013 -> 02:03 PM) So now the question is.....which teammate did she screw? If they would've hired Dave Martinez as Manager, this would be a much easier question to answer.

We're The Millers is hilarious.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Aug 13, 2013 -> 02:45 PM) Speaking of first basemen, Justin Morneau was put on waivers. Konerko is on waivers as well.

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 13, 2013 -> 08:30 AM) Cespedes can get you wins on the basepaths and on defense, something this guy won't do. He has one tool - his bat - and it has to pan out or he's completely useless. Cespedes can have a down year at the plate (96 wRC+ this year) but still become a 2 WAR player (1.6 WAR so far, on track for 2.3/2.4 per Steamer/ZiPs) Well he has 2 + tools. Hit and Power.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 12, 2013 -> 02:04 PM) 70/70 on the hit tools is like Miguel Cabrera. Were those his current grades or his ceilings? Well he's 26 and has played there for awhile so I am assuming that those are his current grades.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 11, 2013 -> 02:28 PM) YES...but, that's probably not the future closer of the White Sox, and not good enough to deal Jones/Reed for prospects if the pitcher replacing them isn't justifiably considered better. Disagree. You always sell high on young closers,in my opinion. Especially when you can receive impact position players in return.

QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Aug 10, 2013 -> 04:56 PM) Why? Morneau hates the Sox. There was a reported story from a few years back when the Sox got Griffey JR. Morneau saw KW in the parking lot and shouted, "What, Lou Gehrig wasn't available?". I personally have no interest in Morneau anyway. His concussion history scares the hell out of me. Also, why are people convinced that the Sox are going to turn around and overpay for big name free agents this offseason? It's just not going to happen and I think many on this board are going to be very upset. Do people really want the Morales, Granderson's, McCanns, or Corey Harts of the world on multiyear deals? They are in their 30's. It just id not smart business. Rick Hahn knows better than this.