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2012-2013 MLB off season tracker thread
Blue Jays Close To Deal With Maicer Izturis Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2012/11/blue...gDVsagMDXLT6.99
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So what type of 3rd baseman do we need?
QUOTE (balfanman @ Nov 8, 2012 -> 07:42 AM) How long has it been since Young has played 3rd base? Would a trade for Young / or Beltre happen for say Rios and various parts? They are losing Hamilton right? So many questions but inquiring minds want to know. It has also been reported that Texas is chasing Adam LaRoche. That means Mike Olt is probably available. They don't have a spot for him to play.
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2012-2013 MLB off season tracker thread
QUOTE (ROC Sox Fan @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 08:36 PM) Yea I mean, alcohol and crack cocaine abuse is bad. But are there studies out there that show they directly lead to a more injury prone athlete? I get the assumptions. That s*** ain't healthy, but what data is there to back it up? It's not always an injury though with him. Sometimes, he does something that he shouldn't be doing and goes in a 2 week funk. I just don't trust his mental state. He's very fragile. Every road trip, there is a chance that he'd wonder off and find himself somewhere he shouldn't be. It has happened before. He's a hell of a talent. So much risk though.
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White Sox Re-Sign Jake Peavy
QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 11:35 AM) Please stop. This is not absolute fact but merely opinion that cannot be universally applied to all batters in all slots. If your eyes told you that Adam Dunn helped the team more than he hurt it this year then that's your opinion. My opinion is that he, along with a few other hitters, killed us. He hurt us the most because he placed an unfeared, auto-out in between our stack of good hitters. Just because he hit 41 pitches hard this year does not discount the other 1500 that fooled him. Stats aside I'd rate the offense like this: DeAza- tough out Youk- tough out Dunn- easy out PK- tough out Rios- tough out AJ- tough out Tank- easy out Alexei- easy out Jimmy- easy out IMO Dunn was the biggest problem. But he clearly wasn't the biggest problem. If he were an easy out he would not walk as much as he does. He committed fewer outs than more than half the team. If this is your opinion, then I really don't have any use for your opinion. Its just flat out wrong.
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2012-2013 MLB off season tracker thread
QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 02:39 AM) I'm sure he understands it quite clearly. The fact of the matter is, GMs not only see money in the production a player puts on the field (which is all FGs WAR does), but they also see money in marketing plus money in a potential playoff appearance. If spending $25 million on one player for one year makes an owner $45 million because of additional attendance plus an extended playoff run, how does that play in, even if he is "only" worth $21 million per FanGraphs WAR? This is not as black and white as you make it seem. I understand and agree with you guys on this. There is an inherent risk with signing Hamilton though. All of the substance abuse problems would sway me the other way. I just never thought the man was ready to take on the lifestyle of a MLB player. Any owner that signs Hamilton has to know that there's a chance of relapse and the contract being a complete waste.
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Illinois State High School Football Thread
QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 4, 2012 -> 01:48 PM) Benet played a great second half. Now, can Benet beat Downers North? They can beat DGN. North wasn't that good in the regular season. They have real good Sophomore QB David Edwards. Benet is the better football team. Sometimes that doesn't matter though.
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2012 Minor league free agent list
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 6, 2012 -> 09:59 AM) In search of the next Quintana or Veal? http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/prospe...ee-agents-2012/ I know I am Captain Obvious with this but those were two very sweet signings. I liked the Veal one at the time but didn't know much about Quintana.
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2012-2013 MLB off season tracker thread
Today is the start of the GM Meeting. While they aren't as active as the winter meetings, things still get done there. I believe that Santos deal last year and the Garcia for Floyd/Gio was also done at the GM Meetings.
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Illinois State High School Football Thread
QUOTE (danman31 @ Nov 3, 2012 -> 11:25 AM) I saw Aaron Bailey play last night. It was his first game back since spraining his knee midseason. He can run, but he wasn't impressive through the air. I don't know how much of that was rust though. They don't really let him throw very often. With what Illinois has I would bet that he plays a lot as a Frosh net year. However, if he has aspirations to make a career out of football it will be at a different position. He had plenty of offers to attend better football schools but they would not commit to him playing QB. He is a brick s***house though. If you went to the game not knowing who he was you would assume he was their MLB. Real good kid too.
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White Sox Re-Sign Jake Peavy
QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 01:38 PM) I think the Sox would be doing handstands in joy if somebody would take Dunn and his contract off the Sox hands. Do you all at least agree on that? I always thought Bulls fans were generally the dumbest in Chicago. Comments like this make me think otherwise. Enjoy Dan Johnson starting DH.
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So what type of 3rd baseman do we need?
QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 03:10 AM) Asking price for Headley is atronomical. Talks would begin and end with Sale. If that's the case then I would bet that Headley stays with SD. They would have to accept less than that from someone, especially with teams knowing that they want to play Gyorko at 3B at some point.
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2012-2013 MLB off season tracker thread
QUOTE (SOXOBAMA @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 10:14 AM) Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS #cubs and #redsox among teams in on Dan Haren trade talks. north siders a new entry. If the Cubs got Haren they would bank on him being good and receiving a prospect or two at the deadline for him. Probably not a bad move for a team that has $$ to spend on a rebuilding effort.
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Sox organizational meetings this weekend
QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 10:38 AM) Be interesting to see if we the fans get any info after the meetings concerning team priorities I'd rather not have any of the information and have them do their jobs well. It will be curious to see if info is generally as secretive with Hahn in charge. Obviously, the Youkilis move was talked about forever but Liriano and Myers fit the old MO. All of a sudden there were tweets and those players were on the White Sox. I wonder if that will change at all.
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White Sox Re-Sign Jake Peavy
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 09:03 AM) He shouldn't be batting 3rd, and if you think Adam Dunn is worth $15 million a year, you should be an agent. I am assuming you would have Rios bat 3rd then correct? Dunn was on base 220 times in 649 PA's. He made 429 outs on the season. Hit 41 homers and walked 108 times. Rios was on base 219 times in 640 PA's. He made 421 outs on the season. Rios had 184 hits and walked 29 times. Dunn on the other hand only had 110 hits. This is where the walks and HR's come into play. Dunn had a down year and his OBP and OPS were way down. But he still was on base about as much as Rios.
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White Sox Re-Sign Jake Peavy
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 2, 2012 -> 07:48 AM) If you pay someone $15 million a year, the thought is for him to do the damage, not try leave it up to someone else. If it doesn't translate into runs, its a pretty meaningless event. Not all walks are created equal. If you think with the same line ups if every player walked the exact same time Adam Dunn walked, the runs created would be the same, I think you're way off. You can get hung up Dunn's walks all you want, but the truth is for most slow footed guys, walks aren't nearly as productive as they are for others. Not that they are totally unproductive, but Adam Dunn walking 105 times isn't nearly as valuable as say Alejandro De Aza walking 105 times. \ Did it bother you when Frank Thomas did it? Frank would frequently take a walk instead of driving in a run. I suppose Frank should have been giving himself up to drive and drive in the runs?
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White Sox Re-Sign Jake Peavy
QUOTE (greg775 @ Nov 1, 2012 -> 01:49 PM) I don't personally hate Dunn and don't sense hatred per se on here. He contributed to a lot of wins last year, both halves. I'm thinking he stunk down the stretch as did most of our players/pitchers. I just don't like his style. I never understood why these big brutes never try to hit to all fields. That shift victimized him a lot. And personally his strikeouts are annoying. I don't hate him and applaud him for his game winning type hits last year but I wish he'd go far away. Do you think flyouts, groundouts, line outs, pop outs, etc are annoying as well? Go and research how many players on the Sox committed more outs than Dunn. You'll most likely find the data quite interesting.
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2012-2013 Sox off season Catch-All thread
Does anyone think the Sox will sniff around Ichiro again? What about a guy like Grady Sizemore? Sizemore has been destroyed by injuries, but if he didn't cost anything, Id consider taking a shot.
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White Sox Re-Sign Jake Peavy
QUOTE (oldsox @ Nov 1, 2012 -> 09:53 AM) Who would want him at $28 large over 2 yrs? The Dunn hate is and always will be mind boggling to me. The White Sox should trade Dunn and then what? They would be looking for another LH power bat to replace him with. Some of the people that post on this board don't deserve to see a winning team. Dunn's .OBP was down last year and he will always strike out a ton. But 40 + HR's annually and over 100 walks is something that is not given enough credit on this board and in most places. People need to get over the fact that their eyes tell them that a strikeout is the worst thing in the world. All the bad players that have come through town and people hate the guy that will end his career near 600 homers.
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So what type of 3rd baseman do we need?
QUOTE (Lillian @ Nov 1, 2012 -> 09:54 AM) Moustakas would be a great addition, and provide a left handed bat, but I suspect that it would take a lot more than Gavin Floyd to get him. He is still very young and has tremendous potential, and of course, he will be cost controlled for a few more years, which makes him very attractive. Did I miss the news somewhere that KC wanted to deal Moustakas? Why would they trade him? Hosmer, Butler, Myers, and Moustakas is a nice group to build around. And they have more coming. Not to mention Perez. Was it mentioned somewhere that they would deal Moose for pitching because of the depth on offense?
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Illinois State High School Football Thread
QUOTE (greg775 @ Oct 27, 2012 -> 11:55 PM) Cool Immy. Can Benet beat Oswego? Do u like Benet's team? Benet is pretty good. 7A is an absolute b****, but they should get past Oswego.
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Rick Hahn the new GM
QUOTE (Jake @ Oct 26, 2012 -> 01:57 PM) The same information that is available to everyone else. That KW has been a GM for more than a decade and has won many more trades than he has lost. I have no reason to believe that a completely inexperienced Rick Hahn will be effective at the myriad of things that go into working out a trade. The stuff today has made it completely unclear to me who has control. It does seem that to some extent JR probably wants to get further away from personnel decisions and is probably going to give KW some of the veto power that JR once held. I think it is fairly clear who has the control. Hahn takes over the day to day operations and will be in charge. KW gets to do a lot more scouting and development type stuff along with Team President type things. Obviously, Kenny will have input on major trades but that was to be expected. I like the analytical shift in philosophy that I think Hahn has though.
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Illinois State High School Football Thread
I coach Freshmen football at Lockport. I never even knew that this board was here.
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Your 2013 Plan for the White Sox
QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 26, 2012 -> 08:29 AM) That sounds exactly like Gavin Floyd. Yeah just like Floyd....minus the Ace part.
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Sox Blogger Call: Open Discussion with Brooks Boyer
Q: How many fans in the survey talked about the on-field product – the team performance? How big a deal was that? Brooks: A year ago, I would have said it had to be near the top… but as it turns out, in the survey, team performance didn’t even make the top 4. Fans said they’d rather see a team that is competitive and fun and plays hard, represents the fan base well, than one that wins but doesn’t deliver those other things. Surprising but true. Obviously it was mentioned in some surveys, and obviously it is a big part of things, but not as big as they thought it would be. I still have to think that winning does matter. The White Sox were in 1st place when this survey was given. It's pretty tough for those fans to use the winning excuse when the team is in 1st place. I'd like to see if it would be in the top 4 when the team is bad.
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In typical KW fashion, will his big offseason move be A-Rod?
QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 17, 2012 -> 11:17 AM) He won't snag A-Rod, but I guarantee he tries to get Ichiro. Yeah I thought the same thing. Kenny tried to get Ichiro this year. Of course he will try again.