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QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Jun 1, 2013 -> 09:23 AM) I like the Colvin idea a lot. He sounds like he could come pretty cheaply via trade & he'd allow the Sox to jettison an extra OF, and some PT could come at Dunn's expense. Excellent idea. Dump Wells (he's still on the team right?) for his roster spot, give him Dunn's PA, and if he does well then you can release Dweezy so he has a shot at being a backup on a contender (because we wouldn't need him anyway) which would then open up another spot for a pitcher.... because bad teams need lots of spots available for extra pitchers. Okay, so who do we have to trade to bring Colvin in here? What do the Rockies need? Thornton straight up with the salary eaten, would that work? Is Colvin still essentially a platoon player that can't play vs RHP though? Maybe he has been better. I just didn't know. I know the Cubs new brass traded him almost immediately but he didn't fit the profile of the high .obp type guy that they are interested in.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 31, 2013 -> 09:39 AM) I can't find the quote, but IIRC, Doug Laumann went out of his way a few weeks ago to say that the catchers in the Sox organization were better than the top catchers in this draft. Oh okay. Thanks for the info. Draft time is so different now because of last year's draft. Taking the HS players high, I won't rule out anything anymore. But that is a good reason. The only thing that would really surprise me would be taking Mananae from Indiana State.

George Brett said yesterday that "Home runs can kill rallies". That's one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Why don't the Royals just get it over with and fire their lunatic of a manager.

I'll call it now. I don't think Francisco gets past the Cubs.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ May 30, 2013 -> 10:09 PM) Hooray for Phil Rogers. I see he has a story on the Trib web site in which he at least raises the possibility that Dunn take his cheerful attitude and go home because he is absurdly terrible. He doesn't think it will happen, but he at least raises the idea. Only wish other folks in the Chicago media would dial up the pressure on the White Sox to cut loose the XXXXL-albatross. Phil Rogers also suggests releasing Dunn and trading for Ethier at a reduced rate to replace him. That is absurd. Ethier is locked in until 2017 at $85 million and is strictly a platoon player as well at this point. Phil Rogers being the lead baseball writer for the biggest newspaper in the country's 3rd largest market has been and is a complete joke.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 30, 2013 -> 05:10 PM) The SI.com mock has the Sox taking Ciuffo, a high school catcher. Unless the Sox were bluffing, there's no chance of this. Why is there no chance of this? Just curious as to your reasons. If they feel like he's the best guy they could take him.

Conor Gillaspie is fine. He is a platoon guy though. He should never play vs. LHP. Luckily, he won't have to for much longer. Beckham goes back to 2B and the Sox can play Keppinger at 3rd vs LHP and Gillaspie at 3B vs RHP. That probably gets you at least an .750 ops from your 3B platoon the rest of the year.

My only problem with the Hudson and Santos deals were that they did not get enough. It just was not a good enough return. Hudson could have been packaged in that following offseason with something else and the Sox could have gotten an impact player. I understand why they did it. It still doesn't make it the right thing to do.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 27, 2013 -> 11:02 AM) Selling high on Peavy is a must, imo. I understand why you think that and if they got a couple of studs for him under team control for the next 6 years I would not be upset. Just don't think it's in the cards.

I understand the point of the pro rebuilding people. I am usually one of them. Many of the posters on this board have convinced me however that this type of scenario will not work with the White Sox. They have great pitching. Sale/Quintana/Santiago is a great trio of LH starters. Peavy is cheap #2 starter in the AL. Danks is under contract and Erik Johnson is on his way. They have the pitching to compete. They need to add offense most likely to really be realistic about competing. Trading Rios and Peavy does this but it is so counterproductive at this point. Like others have mentioned I think they have enough to deal for a bat and sign 2 hitters next offseason. If they signed Granderson and Morales and then traded for another hitter you are in the mix with the pitching that you currently have. It's all about pitching. Most teams rebuild because they don't have pitching. The Sox pitching is plenty good enough to win. They just need to add bats and they will have some $$ to spend in the offseason.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 25, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) White Sox sent INF Angel Sanchez outright to Triple-A Charlotte. A Rule 5 pick, Sanchez cleared waivers and was rejected when offered back to the Angels. He no longer has to be stashed on the 25-man roster and will continue to provide depth in the minors. Per Rotoworld This move also clears a spot on the 40 man roster.

I know that Axelrod has done the job in the rotation. However, Santiago is the better pitcher and a better option long term. I hate Santiago in the bullpen. Not because he isn't good but because he is much more valuable as a starter. I just don't understand why they don't want the better pitcher starting. You have all said it's because they need him in the bullpen. I hate that reason. He's a starter. So start him. Have someone else take the bullpen role. I hate when this organization does this. If Santiago becomes a #3 starter it's much much more valuable than him being a lights out setup man. Obviously, Santiago is not Chris Sale, but we all had these same discussions when they prematurely put Sale in the bullpen last year.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 23, 2013 -> 03:40 PM) Jonathan Gray with a 3 hit, 12K shutout vs Baylor today. He really should be the #1 pick. Maybe so. And if that happens the Cubs would still be ecstatic with Appel.

I was hoping Beckham would be in uniform for Sunday's game when I am in attendance. Maybe he will and Greene goes out.

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ May 23, 2013 -> 09:09 AM) Will he get called up or are they going to let him develop? I do not think Phegley will be up until after the ASB if he even comes up this year. He is already like 25 years old I think though. He has been through a lot and he has always had a nice bat. Hahn probably wants to give Flowers most of the season though after taking the chance on him.

Nate Jones had major control issues all the way through the minor leagues. What is going on should not be that surprising. I don't think we should overreact and never let him pitch ever again though. He needs to throw strikes.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 23, 2013 -> 07:02 AM) Sweet. It's always nice to avoid Hawk for a game. I always listen to Len when I can for Cubs/Sox games. I agree. Len and Deshais is a good booth. I will give them a listen.

QUOTE (bbilek1 @ May 22, 2013 -> 04:02 PM) Okay, I can see where he's coming from. Aside from following him on twitter, I have actually met the kid (when he threw out the first pitch at the Cell) and in person, he was actually very polite. Being another 19 year old kid I feel I can make a decent judgment on him but Balta is right; dissecting his twitter should lead to more of a first impression/perception rather than a final judgement. I do expect him to mature, all I am saying is he has plenty room to mature. FWIW, if I were him, and I was hitting .177 and striking out 60 percent of the time, I wouldn't be retweeting anything and everything with my name on it. I imagine the same people that are questioning the social media habits of a 19 year old also think that Jay Cutler's body language means that he doesn't care about winning.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ May 22, 2013 -> 08:56 AM) And in this case, that is fine. I think if they had demoted him based purely on performance, going A+ to A, would not have made any sense. But he's been out of play for a while now. And I'll throw this out there, TIFWIW... reading his Twitter account, seeing his quotes in interviews... I have makeup concerns with him right now. Maturity issues, principally. Not unexpected for a 19 year old 1st rounder, but, I think he's got some learning to do. And that will have as much effect on him as any mechanical issues. Not sure if going to Kannapolis is the right move though. Maybe he goes there and dominates and fixes what ails him by gaining more confidence. OTOH, he could go down there and keep the same bad habits while still dominating and never fixing his flaws. I know the strikeout rate in Winston-Salem is awful but I think the idea is that the struggles in WS will cause him to change and fix the strikeout issues. I don't have the answer. Just throwing it out there.

PHEGLEY!!!

QUOTE (Noonskadoodle @ May 23, 2013 -> 08:59 AM) FARRRRR from it. You honestly think the way he managed the pen yesterday was fine? Running Omo FREAKIN grosso out there for TWO innings in a 1 run game? Letting him load the bases up before going to get him after he already allowed 2 guys aboard the previous inning. Then you have a guy in Lindstrom who has been getting ground balls consistently all season out of the pen who you could bring in when in that bases loaded situation, but instead you bring in a guy who throws one of the straightest fastballs in the game? I am one who usually backs RV & tries to defend him when ppl get on him, but I couldn't believe what I was watching last night. & to say it didn't matter the Sox only scored 2 runs.....really?....you knew they were only gonna score 2 runs in the 7th inning? Using Omogrosso for a 2nd inning was fine. Whatever. How about this concept: Score some runs and it won't matter. Buchholz was awesome last night. Tip the cap.

No Hamilton today and Pujols go to DH. Dan Hayes ‏@DanHayesCSN 53m Angels with a new lineup minus Hamilton: Aybar SS, Trout CF, Pujols DH, Trumbo RF, Kendrick 2B, Callaspo 3B, Harris 1B, Iannetta C, Shuck LF

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 18, 2013 -> 02:25 PM) Sorry Bilek, if the Sox win, the person who made that game thread, keeps making them until the team loses. Soxtalk tradition. I am sure that will be the reason if the Sox lose. I posted in the other thread. Wasted my time I guess.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 18, 2013 -> 01:52 PM) Greene and Wells I like Wells vs LHP but that's probably the move. Do we get a straight RL platoon at 3B with Keppinger and Gillaspie then do you think?

Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 14m If things go well for John Danks tonight in Buffalo, look for him to start Friday against the Marlins at home Merkin also mentioned that Robin and the staff discussed a 6 man rotation and it sounds unlikely. Merkin thinks that the rotation will be Peavy and the 4 lefties. What does this do to Axelrod? Does he become the long man with Omogrosso going back to Charlotte? Also, Beckham and Angel Sanchez should be back within a week as well. Who goes down or gets DFA'd to make room?