Chicago White Sox

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 10:24 PM) The question is will Micah's defense ever get to a point where you can tolerate it? It was pretty bad. If he can, then I agree he is the long term solution to the position. I personally think Micah was pressing and would have improved significantly as the season progressed. He's most definitely a flawed defensive player, but no way in hell is he as bad as he played earlier this year. Just like Sanchez with the bat, we were going through some growing pains with the glove for Micah. I thought it was foolish to send down Micah only to go through a second young player's growing pains, but that's essentially what we've done, but again this time for a guy most project as a utility player. Whether or not Micah should have made the opening day roster, once we went with him as the opening day starter, we should have committed to him for a few months. Unfortunately, the organization overreacted to his struggles with the glove and made him the scapegoat for our team's defensive problems. Sanchez has definitely improved our defense, but he's been completely worthless with the at-bat. And it came at the cost of one of our few hitters who took a lot of pitches, got on base at decent clip, and who had the potential be dangerous on the basepaths.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 10:15 PM) Steve Stone seems to advocate the position that at every level Sanchez has been at, he's been the youngest in the league at that point, and that his game catches up to that level fairly quickly. Stone also seems to intimate that will happen at this level at some point as well, that his bat will catch up. He seems overmatched at the moment, but maybe he'll get there with a little more patience. There's no doubt he's not this bad offensively, but IMO the bat doesn't project enough to be a regular and therefore we shouldn't endure his growing pains while we attempt to compete. At least Micah has a shot of being our long-term 2B.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 10:14 PM) ALERT!! BREAKING NEWS! ****Tyler Flowers' batting average is BELOW .200**** Sanchez officially below a .400 OPS. I believe he's provided more negative WAR than Micah now.

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 10:13 PM) "Lance McCullers is one of the best 24 year old right handers I've ever seen. Period!" Jesus Hawk. I honestly was just thinking how annoying Hawk has gotten when I heard him say this. His extended absence from the booth has made this more clear than ever.

Not only does Flowers suck, but now he's trying to injure our fans. When will we finally rid ourselves of Tumbleweed.

QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 10:05 PM) Not sure why but, despite really good stats, Kottaras has barely played lately for Charlotte I'm guessing they simply want Kevan Smith to get the bulk of the playing time, but Kotteras has been very good offensively in his limited playing time. And even as a pro, he's been productive with the bat. However, given his lack of opportunities, he must be a complete liability defensively. Still might be better than Flowers if he can hit enough though.

Don't like going 120 pitches with Sale.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 10:02 PM) It really sucks to be wasting all of Chris Sale's prime years like this That's why Hahn is correct to keep adding. Get a 3B & catcher and this team can be serious contenders.

I wonder how much longer Hahn will be cool with Flowers & Sanchez in the starting lineup. With the amount of high-paid regulars struggling, we can't tolerate a complete lack of offensive production at the bottom of the order. Flowers has clearly proven he's not an everyday catcher. Not sure if he'd be an improvement, but I'd give Kottaras a look in a part-time role. As for Sanchez, he's currently sitting on a .400 OPS. I don't care how good his defense is, he's a negative value player right now. I stand by claim that Micah Johnson should never have been sent down in the first place. But given that they clearly don't feel confident with his defense, simply split time at 2B between Beckham & Bonifacio (Gordon could play 3B against RHP).

This thread has a hole lot of stupid in it. Short of injury, there is a 0% chance we don't get a compensation pick for Shark if he leaves in the offseason. Second, he will not be a "5 ERA pitcher" by the end of the season. The guy's FIP is nearly a run lower than his ERA. On top of that, he's clearly performed below his talent level. The odds are incredibly high Shark will pitch significantly better over the remainder of the season. Last but not least, GMs aren't going to pass on a player simply because his stats are bad at that point in time. Teams will do their due diligence by scouting the player and project what he will have to offer going forward. If he's pitching well come July, teams won't care that he sucked in April & May. Furthermore, the supply of quality starting pitching will greatly impact his value to teams. Way too early to know with any level of certainty who will be available come late July or what they might cost.

And Sale's pitch count is quickly rising.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 09:09 PM) I don't believe Alexei had a chance there I agree with you on this.

Ugh, Chris battles this inning and gets f***ed by an infield single. This pathetic offense better get him second run tonight.

f***, definitely safe.

Please don't reverse!?

Another big f***ing strikeout by Chris.

That's a big f***ing strikeout right there.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 8, 2015 -> 08:28 PM) http://www.milb.com/scoreboard/index.jsp?c...mp;ymd=20150608 2 homer game for Coats. Trayce homer. Thompson hit a second HR as well.

Not good right now. Need Sale to get out of this with one run or less.

Trey is having a very nice season. Has brought his K rare down to about 20% while maintaining a double-digit BB rate. The power numbers aren't quite there yet, but that should be expected of a 20 year old. While he may not crack the top 5 next year, he should be firmly entrenched in our top 10 if he can keep up his current performance.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Jun 7, 2015 -> 01:53 PM) I think the Sox genuinely see something in Drabek as a starter. Looking at his game logs, the Sox have kept his pitch counts to the 80-90 range so it seems they are slowly building Drabek up. Love how he is turning into a ground ball machine. IMO, Drabek is being groomed to replace Samardzija. Edit: figures I spoke too soon. Drabek giving up some hits in the fourth. Dear god no. Let's hope they have something more ambitious in mind to replace Shark than Drabek. If they can get him some starts later this season (if we're out of the race), maybe I could be convinced of him as part of a competition for the #5 spot next year, but under no circumstance should he be in our top four if we're serious about competing.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jun 7, 2015 -> 10:13 AM) This also gives the Sox a legit long man again. I would definitely DFA Noesi as soon as other options (Albers?) are available. Don't need two long guys in the pen and quite frankly Carroll is better suited for the role than Noesi if we did want two for some reason.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 6, 2015 -> 07:51 PM) Awful awful inning for Danks. Didn't give the team a chance at a comeback. Still a lot of baseball left, but getting four more runs is going to be difficult tonight. Also, I think we can alll finally agree that Danks is a lost cause. Dude is broken.

What a f***ing disaster of an inning.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jun 5, 2015 -> 11:51 PM) only 6.5 back 5.5 behind KC, which is all that really matters. Twins aren't a playoff team and will regress hard soon enough.