Chicago White Sox

I literally said I didn’t agree with the OP’s aggressiveness, but the quality of this board is beyond fucking garbage right now. Competent discussion can not be had because people are so pissed off and just s%*# on everything regardless of merit. My post wasn’t about being right, but rather calling a spade a spade. If you enjoy what this place has become, then more power to you. I know for me, when the Sox reach the point of providing zero joy whatsoever I take a break from the team and this site. I basically stopped posting for a month because the team was so insufferable. Wish others would do the same. This place should never be a safe space free of criticism do the team, but it also shouldn’t be a total whine fest to the point where baseball discussion can’t be had.

We probably don’t get much for either of them, but they also combined make like $2M above the league minimum and are performing extremely well. There is some value in not being the worst team in baseball history two years in a row as long as you aren’t blocking legitimate prospects. And as we have debated before, it’s not like Canario is some slam dunk prospect. His contact issues are very well known and I think it’s very much defensible to not waste resource and playing time on him if you don’t have an obvious path to fix him. It’s totally fine if you feel he was worth a shot, but I won’t blame Getz passing, especially when you look at the production we are getting from Tauchman/Slater and how bad Canario has struggled so far this year.

The W-L record isn’t something to get excited about. But if we’re being fair to the OP, there were multiple posters here saying the team would be worse than last year despite plenty of data points that objectively proved how hard that would be. Along those lines, many of those same posters called the addition of Tauchman & Slater dumb since they were “garbage” vets who were blocking big time prospects like Dominic Fletcher, Oscar Colas, Zack DeLoach, and board favorite Alexander Canario (owner of a 64 wRC+ with the Pirates). Now, should vilehoopster be this aggressive regarding these two points? Hell no, these are not hills worth dying on and demanding apologies over given how bad the team / org remains at the moment. However, it is nice to occasionally hold the overly negative posters accountable because they often bring down the quality of the board by relentlessly whining about everything and refusing to have objective conversations.

Who is this Jack Reinsdorf cat? Watching the game with the sound off and not able to hear what this interview is about.

What a blast by Vargas!

Can someone explain who the f*** Palacious is? I know he’s been on the roster for a bit of time now, but I have no fucking clue where he came from and why he is here. Trying to get back into the swing of things after an extended White Sox breather and feel like I’m missing something with this dude.

Also, for the record, people should be moderately excited that Tauchman and Slater have mostly worked out. Yes, they have dealt with injuries which is not overly surprising given their age, but for dirt cheap veterans they have been super productive when available. Right now, they are combined on a 2.75 win pace through 40% of the season and having missed 50% of playing time. They are effectively producing at a 5.5 clip in a theoretical 600 PA season. For less than $4M, that’s incredible value. I’m not Chris Getz truther, but those are big wins for dumpster diving and something Hahn never found success in during his entire tenure. Hell, Thais should be viewed as win as well a cheap veteran who was able to serve as a productive placeholder until the actual prospects were ready. It’s clear to me that the pro scouting changes and investments in analytics are paying off to some extent.

Yup, they aren’t really blocking anyone other than maybe Baldwin, but he needed a bit more time in AAA anyways. For those stanning for Fletcher, he’s almost 28 years old and is the definition of a tweener. And he will likely get a shot after the trade deadline anyways.

Yup, Baldwin should be the next man up and whenever that happens they need to give him an extended run of everyday playing time. I still believe he can be a legit regular even if ends rotating around a lot.

What kids are they blocking?

You think public filings are manipulated?

Can we also add the “Meidroth is Madrigal” comps as well?

If it’s binding, then a transaction has already taken place. Ishbia is effectively buying an option at a pre-determined price which is all he needs to procure ownership eventually but without immediately triggering a sale.

Pretty horrible article. Also, the author’s business acumen is really terrible.

He was very good to start the season, but was terrible after getting hurt last year. It’s very clear he’s trying to be a more disciplined hitter this year but it’s clear as day it’s not working from an impacting the baseball perspective. At the end of the day, if Robert isn’t hitting for power then he won’t be an above average hitter. Even with his warts, he should be a league average hitter if he can hit 25 HRs, which would be plenty with his defense and base-running.

Who said that? Still not sure who you are arguing with here…

Believe what?

Sure, but they also built up some savings at the start of the previous rebuild. I’d assume they had built up some reserves during that time.

Or language to avoid an immediate tax consequence.

What massive debt could the White Sox possibly have? Hopefully all those Trajekt machines didn’t set your buddy Jerry back too much.

That should have had no bearing on a transaction as he would have been buying the team on a cash-free, debt-free basis.

The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was conning the world he didn’t exist…

Awesome! Glad Jerry’s debt is getting paid down!

He does?

Why does this matter? A big market club will 100% take a flier on him if the prospect cost is little to nothing. Won’t help us, but doesn’t change the reality of the situation.