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He has positive 1.2 fWAR no?

That’s why you add Detmers who will be considerably cheaper.

That would make a lot more sense then. Especially with the “with other stuff” caveat in the tweet.

The tweet simply says the framework was “discussed” before the Mets went and talked with other clubs. Could be the Mets asked for that package and the Sox said no. Given we’re three days out from the deadline, it’s more likely the Mets are clinging to a high asking price before caving Sunday or Monday.

100% agree. If you hit in the Southern League, it’s time to take notice. I’d rather trade Wolkow over Smith. In my last Top 20 list I had George four spots higher than Boston, but that’s entirely due to a ceiling that is unlikely to be achieved. And normally, it feels like Boston has a higher ceiling than many realize given his athleticism and a swing that maximizes his raw power. If he can stick at catcher in some capacity, he could be a valuable long-term piece.

Fully agree although don’t love that cost for Peralta unless there is an obvious fix and/or they plan to target him in free agency and think this gives them an edge. I also am a huge Boston Smith stan and may not be rational this matter. But f***, we finally have a legitimate rumor/leak which is fun!

I don’t get why we’d move Adams to a relief role. If you’re afraid to add him to the 40 man roster, then keep him as a SP in AAA and treat as an insurance policy in the event other SP options don’t work out. But why create more of a roster crunch to add him to an already overcrowded bullpen? I personally think he’d likely be an upgrade over Schultz & Fedde right now.

I just read this article and conceptually adding Hagen & McDougal make sense. I’m just confused on how we add all three of those guys plus Fedde (potentially) from a tactical standpoint. In my mind, we have six relievers that are more or less roster locks in Taylor, Hicks, Dominguez, Hudson, Newcomb, & Murphy. I think Schweitzer is very much replaceable with one of McDougal or Smith. And Richards has been pretty solid as a mop-up guy and not sure if Fedde is even an upgrade (which is ok). Post-season roster wise, you can probably replace your long man with one of Smith or McDougal, although either guy would need some major league seasoning beforehand. Great ideas but hard to pull it all off. I do wonder if there is an ability to do some buying and selling here. Would they sell one of their LH relievers in a constrained market (and replace with Hagen) to help offset part of the prospect cost needed to add a controllable SP? It’s going to be interesting to see what Getz does here because I keep hearing we are going to see more teams doing both buying & selling this year due to how limited certain markets are.

We’ll start getting beefier rumors today though!

Sounds like the Cardinals will be sellers, so add May to the list of potential options for us. He won’t pitch again before the deadline.

Less than 3 1/2 days from the deadline. For reference, here are how many trades were made on the deadline and the week leading up to it last year: July 31: 26 July 30: 12 July 29: 1 July 28: 3 July 27: 0 July 26: 2 July 25: 2 July 24: 1 Based on this, you can expect a couple trades today and tomorrow. On Sunday we should start seeing some real activity (last year there were some big ones) and then obviously the craziness will happen on Monday. Let’s hope for some rumors / leaks these next two days and maybe even a small trade, but we should all probably remain patient until Sunday for the real action.

Torrens has 2+ years of control. He’d actually be a great pairing with Teel, but you won’t like the cost if you’re worried rental SPs. His defense is so fucking good and the catcher market is legit constrained, so hit cost will likely be much higher than most here would want to pay. A rental C makes more sense IMO.

IMO, we need two starters. One who can slot in between Burke & Martin and give you a respectable 1-2-3 for the playoffs. The other needs to be an upgrade over Fedde, who gives you more innings to protect the bullpen, and hopefully can be an alternative for a game 4 in the playoffs alongside Kay. To me, Ray is firmly in the latter camp. He’d help a ton down the stretch, but he doesn’t inspire a ton of confidence for the playoffs. It’s why I’ll keep screaming for adding both him & Detmers. I simply do not think Ray will cost all that much due to his salary, luxury tax impacts (which SFG eating money won’t help with), and peripherals that metric-oriented front offices won’t love.

He’s getting a 30.6% whiff rate on the 4 seamer, which is 54th overall in the MLB or roughly the 89th percentile. Being able to throw the 4 seamer at the top of the zone after pounding them with 100+ MPH sinkers give him a second major weapon on top of the sweeper. As @chw42 stated, between this and the arm angle change, there is reason to believe his production can mostly stick. Obviously I don’t expect him to carry a 0.00 ERA the rest of the way, but he looks like an actual dude out there now vs. a DFA candidate pre changes.

I typed in backwards, its usage should be up +20%

It’s strange you keep saying this while the baseball insiders & reporters say the opposite because of how much SP is available. I think relievers are going to be far more costly. Regardless, most rentals outside of elite Skubal types don’t go for a ton at the deadline. We have seen this for multiple years a in a row now.

I’d imagine he doesn’t need much more time in Charlotte. My guess is he replaces Schweitzer in the next week or so.

You’re dealing two different versions of him though as he fixed his arm angle post injury and also started using his 4 seamer a fuckton more. Pre injury: 17.2 IP | 7.64 K/9 | 8.66 BB/9 | 0.51 HR/9 | 5.60 ERA | 4.60 xERA | 5.20 FIP | 3.7% 4 seamer Post injury: 13.1 IP | 14.18 K/9 | 3.38 BB/9 | 0.00 HR/9 | 0.00 ERA | 1.15 xERA | 1.08 FIP | 25.5% 4 seamer

Sure, if my optimism proves unwarranted then flame away. But I don’t expect us to trade for two expensive SPs. I fully expect us to add one though and hopefully a controllable guy like Detmers. And I’m confident they will because our OD payroll was a joke and there should be payroll space. And don’t forget there is a large financial incentive for making the playoffs, which is obviously attractive to Jerry.

They acquired him as depth given Hagen & McDougal are moving to relief roles and Schultz may run out of steam in the near future. He’s a plan C and a smart one in the event many things go wrong. The cost was effectively nothing.

He’s just doomsday posting…the Panicans love being negative about everything to help suppress expectations.

Robbie Ray hugwatch begins in 7 minutes.

Detmers makes like $3M full season, so yes we can afford him and one bloated salary rental like Ray. It’s simple math based on the huge revenue increase vs. expectations and is being reported everywhere. Not sure why you keep puking out this Urguidy nonsense unless you’re purposely cosplaying as Jack Parkman.

Smith wasn’t good, but I’ll take 7 K’s, 2 BB’s, & 0 HR’s over 4 IPs.

Hopefully we’re aiming better than Jake Rogers.