Chicago White Sox

Naive? You just called a team in its competitive window “rebuilding” and literally want to do nothing at the deadline in order to protect the future. Reminder to everyone, but Murakami is only guaranteed to be here one more year and Vargas three. Outside of Roch & Bonemer, anyone should be on the table if it can help you can win across multiple seasons. And honestly, after the top 10 to 15, anyone should be on the table who can help you win this season.

I’m sure he would…the Sox aren’t the joke they recently were and he has a relationship with Bannister.

Angels should move him now with a potential stoppage ahead. He’ll be a lot less valuable if next year gets wiped out.

Horrible use of payroll dollars. And honestly, there is a greater scarcity of bats this deadline than SPs.

The Sox’s revenue is up a fuckton vs. expectations…there is cash to be burn. Unfortunately Detmers doesn’t have a huge salary so it won’t come into play when we acquire him. Ray & Gausman both have $7.5M+ left on their deals this year. That’s going to be a big number for a lot of clubs. That’s where the Sox money will help. Add Detmers and one of the other two and we are fucking cooking.

Did you just call a team that will be in 1st place on August 1st a rebuilding team?

Thank you!

Wild to me how many Sox fans actually don’t want to compete for a playoff spot and prefer to be miserable and clutch meh prospects. I think I may need to exit the gamethread for the night…not sure I can handle the Panicans whine at length about the offense not scoring despite facing one of the best pitchers in the game.

The AL Central sucks…this team will be the favorite with a couple of additions.

Yup, odds are very low of winning this one. Regardless, Martin needs to go out there and eat up 5 innings.

Yes, let’s use up our entire bullpen tonight and f*** up the bullpen for the entire Rays series. You Panicans are truly something.

Yeah, this is a way too simplistic way of looking at things. Player can give his all but still fail if given poor guidance & instruction. Pitching is as complex as ever right now and it’s not far fetched that pushing him to throw six or seven pitches and to abandon the one that was his bread & butter may have been overdoing it.

Good play by Davis there

I like this optimism!!!

Key word being upgrades plural.

Detmers was BA’s #8 prospect in the 2020 draft. Didn’t officially pitch that year due to COVID. Went straight to AA in 2021 and dominated before being promoted to AAA and the majors for a brief cup of coffee. Ended up being BA’s #28 overall ranked prospect in 2022. So much better pedigree as a prospect. He strikes out a lot more guys than Quintana and has better velocity & stuff. He lacks the control that peak Quintana had though, although it’s improved a ton this year. Quintana also ate a ton more innings, but Reid is getting better there. They are both lefties but I wouldn’t consider them all that similar. Regarding the price, Quintana was traded right before prospect valuations changed significantly. And candidly, Hahn got very lucky a separate Epstein was willing to give up those pieces. He waited out for an offer for his price to be met after successful Sale & Eaton trades and I’m not sure any other team would have been willing to trade that level of prospect capital. Detmers will certainly cost less just given the current baseball operating environment.

Davis better bring it today

Urquidy is nothing but depth. He was DFAed and acquired for a DSL relief prospect…he is not part of the major league plan. Disagree on this.

We should consider doing one of both…a controllable SP and a rental SP with a big contract whose salary will weigh down the prospect cost.

They won’t get a Bonemer level talent for Detmers. I’m sure they’re asking, but at some point they will concede to market value.

I think Carlson is about as good as a headliner that Detmers will command. After that it’s hard to say, but Quero is a post hype former top 100 guy and Adams is a major league ready SP who is 26 years old and lacks ceiling. To me it feels about right and the fact people here see at being too much & too little suggests it may not be too far off.

What would be astronomical for the Sox?

I agree that’s almost always the case…I just think no team is in need of a controllable SP more than us and Getz push hard to land one.

Dude…this is nowhere close to reality. Detmers is a former top 50 prospect who finally figured things out under Mike Maddux and who currently has the peripherals of a high end SP. His value with 2 1/3 years of control is going to be very high. People pay for expected go-forward performance and not past. Meanwhile, Lodise isn’t even an org top 20 guy for me and Bergolla is semi interesting due to age & hit tool, but lacks ceiling and is also currently injured again. They are nothing but secondary pieces in a trade for Detmers. Fine if you don’t like the player or price, but let’s avoid creating false realities here.

Will require more than that.