Chicago White Sox

And that’s the problem. We’re spending $11M on two guys who mostly do the same thing plus have a younger guy in Romy who mostly does the same thing. Like we can’t even combine Harrison & Leury to form a good 2B platoon. And now we have one less spot to address our weakness against RHP. I like the Kelly move, but this one is pretty frustrating.

Just getting to this thread, but I do not like this move in isolation. Harrison brings a nice glove, but his bat is too redundant with Leury’s. If we were going cheap, Brad Miller made a fuckton more sense.

Weird take

Not one person has argued Kimbrel has a ton of surplus value. If you want to make that claim, show us the posts…

Did someone else sign Conforto?

Didn’t you say Kimbrel was terrible last year? Because those are his full year numbers and they don’t look much different than two dudes who got $50M contracts. ?

I’m 100% fine with anyone preferring us sign another reliever. My beef is with people acting like it’s dumb to sigh more relievers from a capital allocation perspective. The same people bitching about this move would be bitching about our shitty bullpen in May if we didn’t sign Kelly & Graveman.

Of course he is. The Sox aren’t signing Joe Kelly to 2/$17M deal if they plan on keeping Kimbrel and you know that.

As I posted earlier today, but let me add some dollar figures to these guys: Player A: 2.54 ERA | 2.34 FIP | 14.3 K/9 | 1.4 HR/9 | 99th percentile xwOBA (4/$54M) Player B: 2.26 ERA | 2.43 FIP | 15.1 K/9 | 0.9 HR/9 | 98th percentile xwOBA (????????) Player C: 2.57 ERA | 2.83 FIP | 13.2 K/9 | 1.4 HR/9 | 97th percentile xwOBA (4/$58M) So players A & C are somehow worth $13M+ per year on four year deals, but player B (who is obviously Kimbrel) is lucky to be worth 1/$10M per yourself. ?

I don’t need to do shit. You’re the one whining about how we’re spending more than most teams on our bullpen, but not acknowledging that we’re spending more than 24 teams on our total payroll. So tell me what percentage of our total payroll post Kimbrel trade is going towards the bullpen and how that compares to the rest of the league? If you’re going to destroy this site with your non-stop bitching, at least man up and do some basic arithmetic to support your underlying point.

You crack me up. How much of their total payroll is going to relievers if Kimbrel is dumped? And how does that compare to the rest of the league?

Again, please tell us all what you would have done with the bullpen. It’s easy to criticize, but it’s all meaningless without a superior alternative.

Kimbrel is getting traded, but keep on trolling bro…

He might not net us a RF, but offloading his $16M salary can go straight to Conforto.

How would you have addressed the bullpen? I’ll hang up and listen.

And that’s totally fair. But people mad we’re wasting resources on the bullpen when the alternative is giving even more innings to Ruiz or Burr are nuts.

Kimbrel is a good reliever, just sucked with us last year.

What’s stupid exactly? Our bullpen is garbage after like four guys and desperately needed an addition, especially if we move Kimbrel.

See if this works: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xQDCskzGPVc

I think it’s Conforto or Castellanos.

Which is fine, but even on a two year deal Rodon is a massive risk. To think he’s suddenly going to be a beacon of health is based on nothing but desire.

So would I, but if you could get McNeil for Lopez+ you could then go out and sign someone like McHugh to replace him. This assumes you deal for another SP and make Keuchel your #6 starter. Not sure why the Mets wouldn’t just sign McHugh in the first place though.

Did you watch Hahn’s press conference? He might as well had a giant boner coming out of his face when he was asked if there was a specific agent / player he called first when activity reopened. He’s negotiating with Boras for something and all these leaks are part of that chess game. Hahn is not sitting around on his ass no matter what is being leaked to the media.

I never quite understood how GMs / agents thought negotiating in the media would actually work, but now I know…

So a guy who has had various shoulder, elbow, & forearm issues over his career and has never been able to stay healthy for a full season is suddenly going to stay healthy for five straight years. Makes total sense.