Chicago White Sox

Lol...come on Ray Ray, saying Renteria was a net gain or loss of zero wins is absolutely ridiculous and makes me think you don’t watch our actual games. Yes, the team performed well this year because Abreu got in better shape and had a MVP season, our collection of former top 100 prospects (and many top 10 guys) continued to blossom, and several relievers performed well above expectations. Projection models didn’t project our team to perform this well because projection models don’t handle the development curves of young players with much accuracy, they don’t forecast a player to find the fountain of youth, they don’t expect pitchers to change their pitch usage and to suddenly become a bullpen weapon. Rick deserves some credit here, but ultimately most of our “overpeformance” is due to the players or the inherent flaws of projection systems. Ricky was absolutely horrific with the in-game stuff and he definitely cost us games. All you have to do is measure our win expectancy during that CLE series before and after some of his bullpen decisions to prove that. I think the difference between a great manager and a good manager is probably pretty small in terms of wins, but the difference between a good manager and a bad one can be significant. The Sox didn’t fire Ricky and pay him a salary to not manage our team because managers are more or less meaningless like you’re claiming. Clearly they felt an upgrade was needed and that any cost was a small price to pay to improve our chances of winning next year.

I’m not sure what you’re arguing here, but if you watched the Cleveland series you’d know how much a bad manager can cost you.

I was just reading through their greatest and wow were they bad. I’d rather have Hawk in charge of our baseball operations again than La Russia.

Why in the world do you think La Russa is capable of running a front office?

Career WAR isn’t the only thing free agents are evaluated on. The fact that Stroman has a lower ceiling and is coming off a missed season will suppress his value and that’s before COVID.

I’ll be honest, I would not trust old man Stone with any of my secrets. Dude can’t help himself when it comes to Twitter.

You gotta call a spade a spade! It’s looking I’m going to totally wrong on that one.

Hinch is getting a manager role whether with us or another club. He won’t be La Russa’s understudy.

Hinch

I’m really not trying to be a dick, but this a total meatball take. Who the fuck cares what kind of player Getz was at the major league level? And now you want AJ as 3rd base coach under LaRussa. That sound like an absolutely horrible coaching staff and what would AJ provide in that role? And somehow Omar Vizquel was able to take instruction from Christ Getz without being insulted.

100% agree. This is misdirection, a way to show the Sox are serious about adding a big name, and/or a favor for Tony. Honestly, it’s probably a mix of all three.

I love AJ, but him as a coach in any capacity is a horrible idea. He should replace Stone as color commentator when he eventually retires.

This is my biggest concern. It’s one thing to cheat and get caught, it’s another thing to blame the bench coach as the ring leader if that’s what actually happened. His “I tried to stop it but couldn’t” is at least part bullshit or Cora was the defacto manager. If Hahn is serious about him as a candidate, he needs to question him hard ok this subject because his story is sketchy as fuck.

I think the last few weeks reinforced the problem, but I think Ricky would have been on this ice regardless as the Sox want a manager who will partner with the front office on decision-making.

Where do you come up with this stuff? Like I’m seriously starting to think you might be Rick Renteria as you are the only person distraught over this move.

I totally agree. Hinch is the type of manager they are looking for.

I’m sure this is 100% true. We saw way too many decisions this year that were clearly based on gut and completely back-fired. And if we saw it, you know Hahn & KW saw it as well.

Maybe not the words themselves, but I bet this girl gets a few death threats from some psychotic Dodgers fans.

For someone with so much “integrity”, you sure are one condescending dick. But it’s always good to have you stop by and let us know how dumb, immoral, and/or weird we all are.

I’m dying right now

If you offer McCann a QO he’s a 100% chance accepting it and that means you paying your backup catcher $18M. And I’m not trying to be a dick, but we need to add more than one pitcher this offseason and hopefully the best one we add is better than Quintana. IMO, your moves really don’t move the needle much and surprisingly cost us a lot of money.

Cheating is better than quitting IMO. Once a guy shows he’s capable of putting himself over the team, he can never be your manager again.

With a new voice at pitching coach it’s possible. If bringing him back prevents us from doing other things then I get it, but I’d definitely keep him in the org one more season if we have the money.

The last time we brought in an A.J. with baggage we won the World Series. Hate it or love it, seems like Hinch is destined to be our next manager.

In a perfect world I’d go in a different direction, but my question comes back to who is actually a better candidate than Hinch that will also be available? I don’t see a lot of other proven major league managers with post-season success and a willingness to leverage analytics that are sitting around looking for jobs. Candidly speaking I’m tired of going with a first time manager and am willing to consider Hinch assuming he has the right answers in his interview. If he’s far & away the best candidate post interviews, then we need to do what’s best for the organization and go with Hinch. If someone else is close, then I’d go with the candidate with less baggage. Either way, he need to get this right and that means Hahn has to properly weigh the pro’s & con’s of a Hinch hiring. We really can’t afford to fuck this up.