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Longenhagen is probably higher on Madrigal than most other publications. For example, Pipeline just did a 2018 redraft and didn’t even have Nick in the top 10. A think 50 FV grade is probably consensus given a complete lack of power potential at the moment.

Yes, some their surplus value projections are simply bad. For example, they have Moncada at negative surplus value which candidly is straight up embarrassing. Again, the tool is cool and very user friendly, but it’s only as good as the inputs and clearly there are some cracks in that department.

While the tool itself is cool, the values of the individual players are very much hit or miss. And prospect rankings in particular could be all over the place.

Thanks...hopefully he’s willing wait another 12 months then and doesn’t take a shit offer from another club.

Do we even have say $500k to throw at him in a shitty offer or the did $2M Cespedes got wipe us clean?

Surplus value is without question an important part of trade discussions, but everyone is going to value players differently. Where are these figures coming from?

Was their ranking too high I’m assuming?

Which Sanchez are you referring to?

Paxton would be a fantastic get on a one year deal.

I’m not sure I get the bottom comment, but the part you & Harold are ignoring is in the case of the Rangers it’s an Ivy Leaguer / business type guy bringing on a former baseball player to work underneath him. I think people are starting to acknowledge the game shifted too much down the analytics / big business path and that better balance is required in terms of having baseball people in important roles. That doesn’t mean all the billionaire owners are going to start hiring former baseball players to be the lead decision makers in their organizations. IMO, most of them will continue to want a business-oriented or “Ivy League” type guy at the very top.

Define “baseball people” because the guy who hired Chris Young to be GM and still ultimately runs the Rangers’ baseball operations probably does not meet your definition.

Oh no doubt, the core should theoretically be top three in baseball, but the leftover farm system will be very weak without substantial growth from the young guys targeted for A ball next year (a lot of which you just named) or the older guys with question marks who will start at AA or AAA (such as Burger, Adolfo, Rutherford, Sheets, Pilkington, & McClure).

100% it’s a top 10 farm at the moment because very few systems have a top four like ours. The problem is that will change in like six months and suddenly the system will be bottom 10 baring some breakout performances next year.

Not yet I don’t believe

I originally had Vera 10th, but am super high on Burdi’s talent and think he has a chance to be a special reliever if he has can learn to harness his stuff. But yeah, it’s a great top 10 for now, but the first four guys will likely lose eligibility at some point next season and we’ll definitely need a few of our younger prospects to step up.

I just saw this on Twitter, but we’re potentially getting Cespedes cheaper than Yogurt Sanchez. That’s pretty fucking nuts when you think about the difference in hype and talent.

Obviously not directed at me, but I’d have him ranked 5th right between Madrigal & Kelley. Andrew Vaughn Micheal Kopech Garrett Crochet Nick Madrigal Yoelki Cespedes Jared Kelley Jonathan Stiever Matthew Thompson Andre Dalquist Zack Burdi

Pretty disgusting guidance by the Chairman but ultimately not that surprising, especially when you consider the Bulls’ track record of selling 2nd round picks.

@Y2Jimmy0 - Any sense if this is true? Seems far fetched Colas would wait another year to sign with the Sox, but then again maybe there are no teams left willing to pay what he’s looking for?

Early Christmas gift for us White Sox fans!

FUCK YES!!!

I don’t see the need to give up a ton of assets for Castillo now that we have Lynn.

Unfortunately we’re probably stuck with him for the next three years.

What a strange parallel, but at least it’s an improvement from the serial child molester comparison you made previously.

Yeah, it kind of sucks for the PR department that they have to try to justify this hiring in the wake of this shit when we all know Jerry is the only one who wants Tony here.