Chicago White Sox

It’s an interesting idea to say the least. And while none of these guys are Vaughn caliber prospects, we do have four potential long-term 1B/DH guys on the 40 man roster in Collins, Mercedes, Burger, & Sheets that could potentially backfill the spot once Cruz is gone.

Warning - This is likely bullshit but for the sake of conversation:

This is a really good point.

Wow, I hope those guys aren’t really saying that.

Higher WAR based on what? Grandal put up more fWAR in 2019 than McCann did in 2019 & 2020 combined. If you’re looking at bWAR, then you’re completely ignoring framing which is a big piece of what Grandal brings to the table. And let’s not ignore the massive track record Yasmani has with the bat whereas James has only recently shown signs of being more than a platoon bat. It’s possible that McCann suddenly is a star hitter, but I’d wager lots of money he is line for some serious regression if used as a starting catcher.

Exactly. We know he calls a good game and handles the staff well, but he has some flaws defensively and the bat is still a huge question mark. I was a hater turned supporter, but some people here act like he’s a proven super-star

This is a laughable comparison.

What’s funny is there is some truth to this? Part of being a Cubs fan was the desire to be there when they finally ended the drought? Now that losing may not be so lovable and with a highly likable / competing Sox club (ignoring TLR), the sides could really shift in Chicago if the Ricketts aren’t careful.

That’s a fucking surprise

I’d think he’d be quite expense even when considering his age. I’d rather trade for a starter than burn prospect capital on a RF.

Lol...I’m the weirdo for misreading a post, whereas you have a perverse hatred of Nick Madrigal because he’s short.

Reading comprehension is clearly a problem for me...lol

Sorry if I wasn’t clear, but Harold is the one saying we’re desperate to bring back McCann and thinks Springer is not happening, while James thinks bringing back McCann would be a waste of resources and that we’re actively pursuing Springer.

So basically he’s signing with the White Sox?

I still think the Mets are going to sign Realmuto and this leak is simply a ploy to gain some leverage.

My point is unless the Sox are operating in an unconstrained environment, it’s ridiculous to think they would want to pay starter money to their backup catcher or spend $18M/year for Grandal to be their primary DH (while blocking Andrew Vaughn) when they have massive holes in the rotation and RF.

You think they want to overpay McCann and keep Grandal, rather than use those dollars toward a Springer or Bauer?

You didn’t say this about McCann?

You still feel it’s likely we get one of Colas or Cespedes? Just have this bad feeling that Jerry will punt on using our remaining $2M+ in slot because we’re “going for it” at the major league level and need that money towards a long reliever. Tell me I’m crazy to think that’s a possibility.

Harold also thinks the Sox desperately want McCann back (at starter dollars) and would still keep Grandal around for some reason. He clearly has access to some inside info, but let’s not assume everything he says is gospel. Even the best insiders get shit wrong. Also, James has just as good of a track record and says we’re still in the mix so no one should be losing hope yet.

In James I trust

You need to consider the hangover effect for Rockies hitters when on the road.

He’s simply too risky where we’re at today.

JBJ’s offensive numbers were way too flukey last year IMO and I’d rather have Joc’s bat (2018 to 2019 version) against RHP than JBJ’s glove

Joc