Chicago White Sox

While I’d prefer we go in a different direction, the causal Sox fan would love a La Russa hiring and it would be make us the focus of a ton of media coverage over the next 12 months.

He had never pitched above High A when we acquired him. His value has probably slipped some over the past year, but he still has proven himself against upper minor competition and he showed his plus stuff was back when he was in spring training this year. His value is definitely higher now then it was back then IMO.

That would make a ton more sense.

Think about what we got in return for Sale in comparison. Yes, Moncada was a far better prospect than Vaughn, but Kopech’s value has skyrocketed since then so while this deGrom package would be light it’s not that far off. However, the difference in surplus value given Sale’s contract is astronomical. It would be a terrible trade for us IMO, especially in this economic environment.

Have you seen the Diamondbacks’ track record under TLR?

Only makes sense if they see Jirschele as the long term and plan to give him two years as the bench coach before being handed the reigns.

So Harold is basically implying Reinsdorf & KW want La Russa and don’t give a fuck what Hahn thinks. I truly believe Harold has access to inside info, but I call bullshit on all of this. If they were going to force La Russa on Hahn it would already be done by now...they wouldn’t make Hahn go through a charade of an interview process.

Ok, but that’s not what I’m arguing. And calling a GM a “middle manager” is pretty ridiculous.

Worked in management? What in the world are you talking about? A GM that is being forced to hire the owner’s long-time buddy to manage his team clearly doesn’t have the proper influence or decision making authority to be successful and would likely quit. I don’t care what badass job you think you had that makes you feel otherwise, but you are wrong here. A manager who doesn’t get to hire their direct reports is only a manager in title. It’s really that simple. And when has Jerry ever forced a manager on one of his GMs? The only thing even remotely close was the Guillen situation and he ultimately sided with KW. For fuck’s sake, he let Hawk fire La Russa years ago and supported Krause at the expense of Jackson. I’m sure Jerry is involved in the decision-making process, but he’s not going to force his front office to hire certain people.

If Hahn was not allowed to hire his own manager he would probably quit. This Jerry is going to override the front office and force them hire La Russa is total bullshit. That is not how the dude operates. I’d wager large sums of money that Hinch will be the manger within 10 days after the World Series.

As a depth piece that’s totally fine. But we should strive to do better with our RF hole and under no circumstance do you offer him arbitration.

Of course it means nothing, but more exciting than arguing against delusional pro Mazara comments.

Since my RF thread has been destroyed by endless Mazara talk, figured I mention in here that Steve Adams of MLBtraderumors has the Sox as his pick to land Springer.

What are you giving up for Frazier?

The Sox are going to spend what they are going to spend. Jerry isn’t going to tell Hahn the payroll is $180M with La Russa, but only $130M with Hinch. That’s just completely nonsensical.

He’s just speculating that’s what a hiring decision would imply. Either way, the fact they are going after the big name managers implies there is more in the coffers then they are letting on.

If you’re talking all players at all positions none of this is remotely true.

13th overall in what? The AL for RFs?

What do you mean by “ops”? You just want the link to what I just posted? If so, see below: https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=rf&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=150&type=8&season=2019&month=0&season1=2019&ind=0&team=0&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&startdate=2019-01-01&enddate=2019-12-31&sort=5,d

If it means we’re planning to spend ike crazy, then sign me up. Unfortunately in the world of financial constraint, a space Reinsdorf typically operates within, a McCann signing likely means limitations elsewhere.

Here is FG’s 2019 leaderboard filtered on RF and sorted by HRs. I have not gone through it detail to see how generous their definition of RF is but the point is a lot of guys hit 20 bombs.

Especially when paired with a monster 20 bombs!

But at the same time, how the fuck would you know? Seems to me that Stone would have access to much better info the matter than you.

I did and gave that $3.5M to Marwin. Not sure if that’s feasible or not, but between a down year in 2020, his past connection to Hinch (my targeted manager), and economic uncertainty I felt it was possible.

This is pretty similar to my SoxMachine offseason plan which had Bauer + Calhoun as key additions plus Kela for the pen, Peacock as a swingman, and Marwin Gonzalez as a UT guy.