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I think Walker has a higher floor than Adolfo & Basabe given their swing & miss issues, which is probably the main reason I ranked him above them.

All else being equal, I’d probably say Player B, but obviously a lot of factors could change that.

Wow, I think Samson is pure scum, but I’m glad he’s not backing down. Nothing bad can come from some heat being put on Jerry right now.

So back on subject, but is it safe to say that Black Jack rumor was bogus?

I agree for the most part, but I think Walker’s combo of bat speed & plate discipline provides far more potential than most give him credit for, especially if there’s any chance he can stick in CF (doesn’t sound like that’s been ruled out just yet).

The plate discipline was fine, the lack of power was the issue. Will be interesting to see how he responds to juiced ball.

I just don’t get the love Rutherford gets around here. He’s got an incredibly ordinary corner outfield profile. I get he’s still very young, but at some point he’s got to show something to get me excited.

I really hope Jerry banged your wife or something, because you take the hate to a truly bizarre level.

Doesn’t work like what? Collins is not on the same planet as Vaughn in terms of being a prospect, so not sure how this Lux theoretical makes any sense. And previous draft position doesn’t matter when evaluating current prospect value, so your theoretical makes even less sense. Also, the odds of Vaughn being close to as good as Alonso are much higher than you believe. Vaughn is the best 1B prospect we’ve seen coming out of the draft in years. Modern baseball suggests he can be incredibly valuable.

Vaughn was a much higher regarded prospect than Alonso prior to their drafts and while he may not hit for as much power as Pete, Andrew has a potential 70 grade hit tool that can make him equally as valuable.

You create financial flexibly so you can sign guys like Betts in free agency. You don’t trade critical cost controlled assets to pay Betts a market rate contract.

Do you think the Mets could easily replace Pete Alonso’s five win season at 1B for close to $500k right now? Vaughn is that type of talent potentially for us.

This plan has no DH, only 12 positional guys, and only 25 guys total on the active roster. Did you forget someone?

Madrigal, Robert, Vaughn, Cease, & Kopech are all critical to the rebuild because they can provide high end production for dirt cheap. The moment you trade them and have to replace them via free agency, you quickly run out of money to fill all your holes and end up with a flawed roster. For example, if you trade Cease, you basically need to add three starters this offseason and have $28M less to do it. It doesn’t make any sense unless the price is like Stiever & Walker.

It’s not if you trade multiple of your key cost controlled players while eating up a ton of your financial flexibility.

Wheeler is totally the target IMO. Just feels like a guy the Sox would love.

Left-field only profile doesn’t help much unfortunately.

TV contracts are the primary revenue stream nowadays.

Is that a Cease or Collins or a Cease plus Collins?

And they were coming off an 88 win season. Much easier to trade away cost controlled talent when you have a playoff caliber core in place.

Alright, with the season over but the offseason yet to begin, I think now would be a great time to do some prospect rankings. So to kick things off, let’s rank the top 10 outfielders in the system. Here’s my official list: Luis Robert Steele Walker Micker Adolfo Luis Basabe Luis Gonzalez Blake Rutherford Bryce Bush Luis Mieses James Beard Anderson Comas

I forgot about that Goldschmidt trade and yeah no fucking thanks on Mookie.

I think it was just a theoretical, for fun “look how much talent we could get for Yoan & Timmy” exercise. Obviously the Sox aren’t going to do that trade, so no reason to take the post too seriously.

This Betts talk is insanity. I was one of the few who wasn’t theoretically against a Machado trade a year ago, but our system actually had some SP & OF depth at the time. Due to injuries and underperformance, we simply don’t have the prospect capital it’s going to take to land Mookie, who is an even better player than Manny and whose cost will most certainly be more. When it comes to trades this offseason, Robert, Madrigal, Vaughn, Kopech, & Cease should 100% be off limits. That doesn’t really leave much, with Stiever & Walker probably being our best trade chips (assuming Dunning’s value is suppressed due to injury). I just don’t see a matchup here even if we were prepared to take a big risk and unload decent prospects for one year of Betts.

Any time somebody wants to rip David Sampson or Jeff Loria is fine by me.