DirtySox

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 04:31 PM) Trading Gordon Beckham is nuts. I wouldn't do it unless blown away. His trade value surely isn't very high right now.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 04:20 PM) They'll experiment with it. If he's horrendous, and he probably will be, they're not going to leave him there. As far as the deal overall? s***, this division is spoken for through at least 2014. I don't care what anybody says. We know what the Sox are. The Twins might actually be in worse shape than the Sox. The Royals still have no SP. The Indians are probably the one team you could make a non-silly sounding case for (i.e. Ubaldo reverting back to first-half 2010 form). We all know that they'll regret this when Prince is 31, 32, 33. But right now he's 27 and in his prime. I cannot ever remember a time where you had this many potential powerhouses in the AL at one time. The days of NY/Boston and everybody else are long over with. I'm not fully sold on the Indians in the near future. I think Tigers are the clear favorites the next few years with KC jumping into contention if Montgomery/Lamb/Odorizzi make the jump or they add some legitimate starting pitching like the Nats and Reds did with Gio and Latos trades.

Phil Rogers sucks, but he's reiterating a Rosenthal rumor that the Red Sox are interested in Gordon Beckham for their SS vacancy. This in addition to Floyd for the rotation.

JesseSanchezMLB Jesse Sanchez Cespedes gains residency in the DR. 6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply http://mlb.mlblogs.com/2012/01/24/cespedes...ency-in-the-dr/ Cubs or Marlins, who ya got?

Speculation that Detroit isn't done and want a pitcher. Garza next?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 02:39 PM) And if there aren't good offers on the table, this deal doesn't suddenly mean we should accept bad offers. I didn't say we should. But if Kenny had delusions of competing this year, they just realistically took a hit. If he was waffling on a potential fair deal or not, I hope he's considering pulling the trigger.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 02:38 PM) I'd imagine they're going to have to eat a bit of that contract to move him... They are considering Miggy to 3B, or either of them in a corner OF spot as well. Will it work out? Who knows. They have time to worry about it certainly.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 02:36 PM) Because there's plenty of flipping out, "Trade Thornton and Floyd, bring out the tarp, cover the field, I can't watch this any more, it's over. Turn out the lights, bring in the bulldozers and let's turn this place into a parking lot" already. Many of us thought those players should be traded even before this addition.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 02:29 PM) Now let's also note though...he's been somewhat inconsistent in his career, bouncing between 6.4 WAR and 3.4 WAR over the last 3 years. Furthermore, he's also moving to a much worse ballpark for hitting, which has been known to affect big bats in different ways. And if Miguel Cabrera winds up spending time at 3b or DH, then Miguel Cabrera's WAR is going to go down because of position adjustments and deplorable defense. Sure there are what ifs, but there are with every signing. I'm not proclaiming the Tigers to win the 2012 World Series, but let's not pretend this isn't a significant pick-up. I think you are downplaying his addition a bit.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 02:19 PM) Just at the same position, I'll go: Albert Votto Cabrera And if he's healthy, Adrian Gonzalez. Over the last 4 years, Teixeira has put up similar WAR to Prince, while I'm at it. Prince is still quite a solid pickup in the short term. A 5 fWAR player will offset the loss of Victor and then some.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 02:11 PM) They're going to have something like $80 million tied up in 4 players through the end of 2014. Read that number again and think about that. The rest of their roster will have to earn less than the Marlins for that team to not lose a ton of money. And 3 of them effectively play 2 positions. Aren't they already losing a ton of money? Isn't that Illitch's thing? He doesn't care and just wants to win.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 01:55 PM) Tim Brown @TBrownYahoo Source: Prince is very close to a nine-year contract with the Detroit Tigers, according to sources. That will do it. Sell Kenny, sell.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 24, 2012 -> 07:37 AM) Does it work that way in baseball? I have never seen that said before. Do you have a link? http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball...s-means-red-sox

JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN Marlins remain committed to outbidding the Cubs and Tigers for Yoennis Cespedes if and when he every attains free agency 1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 23, 2012 -> 09:01 PM) Oswalt is expected to get $7-9 million, that's pretty similar to Gavin's deal, and then there's the $9.5 million option on Floyd for 2013. It's not as simple as that. Since the White Sox aren't anywhere near paying a luxury tax, I don't know a damn thing about it. But people keep noting that Floyd's cap hit is only $3.75 million and they all seem to indicate he would fit and Oswalt would not. Some financial gymnastics going on. Some of it having to do with how Scutaro's deal was structured as well.

Much speculation out there that with the Red Sox signing of Cody Ross at $3 million, Gavin is the primary target. Would fit within the luxury threshold where as it's unlikely Oswalt would. Just speculation though.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 23, 2012 -> 06:04 PM) If it's not rebuilding, it's certainly not building. As is, I see a team destined for third place. In between all the way.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 23, 2012 -> 05:43 PM) If the Sox suck this year, I hope KW is canned after the season. I mean he made a couple offseason deals, big deal. If this team makes no more moves, it on paper again is a contender. If the team sucks, it's on KW. Fire him if this team sucks. Now if he makes 3-4 more trades, I will change this post. Then he can't be judged on this season's crap product. The team will suck. They are rebuilding to an extent. There aren't any expectations this year. The results of the season are rather meaningless.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jan 23, 2012 -> 05:22 PM) Yep. It's clear Jerry is trying to be classy and take the high road regarding this situation. He wants to smooth things over before Ozzie is ripping Peavy in the media and vice versa. I'd wager he's just as sick of the Ozzie circus as we are, and he's trying to distance himself and his ballclub from it as best as possible. De Luca seems to agree: ChrisDeLuca Chris De Luca Looks like a preemptive strike by Reinsdorf to end potential nastiness with Ozzie. Looks like Jerry follows Oz on Twitter. #whitesox 5 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 23, 2012 -> 05:17 PM) You do realize YOU have been saying for months that you believed Ozzie quit, right? And btw JR might have told him to go but it doesn't mean that he didn't quit way before that. Yep. It's clear Jerry is trying to be classy and take the high road regarding this situation. He wants to smooth things over before Ozzie is ripping Peavy in the media and vice versa. I'd wager he's just as sick of the Ozzie circus as we are, and he's trying to distance himself and his ballclub from it as best as possible.

QUOTE (Special K @ Jan 23, 2012 -> 04:49 PM) Resign Pierre and start him at lead off and in left field. I just threw up blood.

Sickels did farm system rankings for the first time. Guess who's last? http://www.minorleagueball.com/2012/1/23/2...kings-prospects

Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein Great polish for age, but stuff isn't great. 4-5 starter. RT @IamEsteban: @Kevin_Goldstein What projection you have for Gerardo Concepcion? 33 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Trade Gavin and Thornton. Sign Soler and Concepcion. Sign more IFA prospects before the CBA changes.

The White Sox spend less on the draft than any team, but they invested $1.2 million in Mitchell as a 2009 first-round pick and gave rare (for them) above-slot bonuses to Thompson ($625,000 in the second round in 2009) and Walker ($795,000 in the sandwich round last year). All three are high-risk, high-reward prospects and their inability to make consistent contact could cause them all to go bust rather than boom. Thompson is the best bet to be a useful big leaguer, because he has the broadest base of tools. He may always strike out and never hit for a high average, but he has a lot more power potential than Mitchell or Walker. Thompson is an average runner with good instincts on the bases and in center field, and he has enough arm strength to be a legitimate right fielder. Walker has the speed to make an impact on the bases and in center field, but he's going to have to make significant strides with his on-base ability. Mitchell, who won national titles in baseball and football (as a wide receiver) at Louisiana State, is the best all-around athlete of the trio. But he hasn't been the same player since he tore a tendon in his left ankle when he ran into an outfield fence in the spring of 2010. Walker is the best defender of the three, followed by Mitchell and Thompson in that order. None of them is the top defensive outfielder in Chicago's system, however. That distinction belongs to Jordan Danks. http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prosp...12/2612849.html