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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 15, 2011 -> 06:03 PM) DKnobler DKnobler Kenny Williams says if White Sox can make deals he wants, they would officially be "rebuilding" 50 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,5215505.story

DKnobler DKnobler Kenny Williams says if White Sox can make deals he wants, they would officially be "rebuilding" 50 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

ESPNChiSox Doug Padilla KW says new trade options have emerged at GM meetings. Smiled when he said it. 1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

jaysonst Jayson Stark Hearing new labor deal wouldn't eliminate draft-pick compensation. But teams would only have to give up top pick if they sign "elite" player 3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Jerry Crasnick Roy Oswalt's agent Bob Garber expected to meet with #Royals people today or tomorrow in Milwaukee 11 minutes ago Would be a pretty nice get for KC. I like it.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Nov 15, 2011 -> 09:28 AM) Later Buehrle compensation. Maybe not. BenBadler Ben Badler He would know RT @AdamRubinESPN Even though CBA is expiring, Sandy Alderson said draft pick compensation should remain same this offseason 6 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman Expectation is that Type-B compensation will be eliminated this offseason and maybe a few Type-As who really shouldn't be. 2 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply Later Buehrle compensation.

MDGonzales Mark Gonzales KW sounded less than lukewarm on the prospects of Buehrle returning. 7 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply ESPNChiSox Doug Padilla KW tried his best to sound optimistic on Buehrle. Didn't sound good though. 4 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply CST_soxvan Daryl Van Schouwen Williams on Buehrle had pessimistic, realistic feel: "There’s a time for everyone to come. There’s a time for everyone to go.'' 3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Jim Margalus has noted this plenty as well. It's ridiculous that many of the beat writers have been noting De Aza as not ideal, or non traditional as a lead-off hitter. He's more f***ing ideal than Juan Terrible Pierre. The White Sox beat-writers are awful. Truly a shame that Ballantini was the one canned.

QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Nov 11, 2011 -> 03:26 PM) Thank you. The problem with the system isn't just lack of any quality depth, it's the approach to the farm system. They refuse to invest in it at a level even close to the rest of baseball so the only way to restock it is to deal for prospects. If they are cutting back on payroll you must build from within to sustain any kind of success. That is the importance of the system. As you can see, the franchise is a f*cking mess because of all this. I like this post. It's funny that people think they can maintain the status quo and all of a sudden the farm is going to get better. I'm fine with multiple down seasons if the organization addresses the issues that are apparent to almost everyone. Though, I'll wager the organization continues to be in between while denying any problems exist. I'm with Marty on this one.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Nov 8, 2011 -> 11:27 AM) If you get good value for him, then why the hell not? He's another mediocre year away from losing his starting spot. Would the Sox really get good value for him? Seems like they might be selling low.

QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Nov 8, 2011 -> 11:06 AM) That said, the bigger reason I don't want them to pay-up to sign him is because we are not winning a WS with this line-up and the couple muppets like Rios and Dunn we are committed to. I would rather them use the money to sign some younger players or develop options with the money while we are in re-building mode. There's a lot more we could do with $30+ million than watch one of our favorite players diminish into the sunset .... Let him do that in Florida with the other elderly folk Fully agree. I hope Mark doesn't want to stick around in this White Sox mess and desires to sign with a competitive team. Maybe the Rangers make a run at him if they are unable to keep CJ. Resigning MB just makes this team more "in between."

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal Sources: #Marlins will meet with Buehrle on Tuesday, Reyes on Wednesday and Cespedes on Thursday. #MLB 54 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal To repeat from other day: #Marlins' top priority is adding LH starter: Wilson, Buehrle. Not to say they won't dabble in other areas. #MLB 8 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply jcrasnick Jerry Crasnick If things don't work out with C.J. Wilson, #Rangers also expect to be involved in the Mark Buehrle hunt. #paralleltracks 3 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 7, 2011 -> 01:48 PM) Is that Jonathan Sanchez? The guy who threw the no hitter and who people keep suggesting KW/Coop might trade for? Yes. Looks like a beneficial trade for both sides. Especially since this opens up a spot for Lorenzo Cain. .312/.380/.497 in AAA, while playing a fine CF.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Nov 2, 2011 -> 06:53 PM) Hogwash. Scott Merkin is easily the best. In fact, I can give you the headliner for his next five articles: "Adam Dunn is out to prove the critics wrong; has plenty left in the tank." "Alex Rios to be the next Matt Kemp?" "Jake Peavy's heart and soul finally ready to wreak havoc on AL Central foes." "Gordon Beckham says his spirit is alive and kicking." "Ozzie did it his second year, why not Robin in '12?" Nice.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Nov 1, 2011 -> 11:32 AM) But outside of those first few rounds, the small market teams aren't signing anyone that that is falling for signability reasons. This is tremendously false. The Royals, Pirates, and Nationals have made a living at signing players seeking significantly over-slot. In latter rounds as well.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 1, 2011 -> 11:26 AM) What is there to expound on? Low budget teams have to pass on guys with the highest demands, even if they are the best players. That's why we see so many players drop because of "signability issues" to teams like Boston and New York who have no problems meeting their bonus demands. In a hard slot, they are locked into a price, so it won't matter. If they drop in the draft, it gets worse dollarwise, so the incentive would be to go to the first team that wanted you, and not to create outrageous demands to move. If you haven't been paying attention, the low budget teams that are passing on players with high demands are largely low budget in merely the draft. See the White Sox. Other than the Red Sox and Yankees, teams that need a competitive advantage in any way possible are exactly the teams picking and signing these falling players. See Pirates, Nationals, Rays, Blue Jays, and Royals. Hard-slotting will hinder the teams smart enough to take advantage of this market inefficiency (primarily the teams that need this advantage the most) and level the playing field for teams that have the resources but are too cheap/and or stupid to utilize them on amateur talent.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 1, 2011 -> 11:16 AM) If you look at the economics/baseball reasoning that you provided then it's fairly obvious they are morons. Feel free to expound. Though the issue is about dead via the CBA anyway.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Nov 1, 2011 -> 11:13 AM) Then baseball is full of morons. Insightful.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 1, 2011 -> 10:37 AM) That is exactly it. Baseball is such a crapshoot draft that to expect any results out of it, you really have to spend between $8-15 million, and there are teams that are going above and beyond that. One of the reasons the White Sox don't do this is because they have been burned by big signing bonuses in the past. It's actually a stupid reason because that kind of stuff simply happens, but it's true (it's also why they generally don't hand out big free agent contracts...Reinsdorf has opened the purse strings a bit in the past 5 years and it has bit him squarely on the ass, so I expect him to reign it in a bit over the next 5). There is also the idea that Selig has in mind for slotting, and Reinsdorf has done quite a bit to stay within that, which is dumb from a business perspective because if you are the only one following the rules and it isn't unethical to break the rules, then you are putting yourself at a disadvantage. Spot on. Luckily hard-slotting isn't even remotely close to becoming a reality. A tax for exceeding some sort of bonus cap/ceiling is a much better idea.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Nov 1, 2011 -> 10:58 AM) I agree. Hard slotting helps small market teams a lot more than it hurts them. You are in the absolute minority that thinks that. 95% of baseball hates the idea. This is not hyperbole. It's why hard-slotting isn't even close to becoming reality. Thankfully.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Nov 1, 2011 -> 09:36 AM) Obviously I know why the players don't want hard slotting, but your first reason doesn't cut it. There are more teams that would benefit from hard slotting than teams currently taking advantage of the system. From a parity standpoint, hard slotting is a must. Sure, if you're a Red Sox, Tigers, or Cubs fan, you want to keep the current system. However, the poster who said there shouldn't be hard slotting is a White Sox fan, so his claim makes zero sense. I'm also a fan of baseball and not just the White Sox. Hard-slotting hurts small market teams that aren't able to lure the big time free agents. Teams like the Rays, Royals, and Pirates realize that it's absolutely necessary to be able to develop their own players and they spend accordingly to make up for other deficiencies they can't control as much. I'd rather not see that taken away from them. It also pushes multi-sport and certain prep talent away from the draft if bonuses are set in stone. Hard-slotting is widely viewed by almost everyone as a terrible hindrance of an idea. It might be good for the thrifty White Sox, but it's awful for the rest of baseball.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Oct 31, 2011 -> 12:46 PM) Well, that's not going to happen. We just need to hope that the new CBA will include hard slotting or else we'll continue to be at a disadvantage. Also, having some presence in Latin America (outside of Cuba) would help. Hard-slotting isn't going to happen, and it shouldn't. Sounds like a tax will be imposed if teams spend over a certain amount in the draft overall.