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QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 02:32 PM) In your eyes maybe. But in the ESPN predictor he is not even in Top 10 2016 Cy Young Predictor - AL RK PLAYER TEAM CYP G GS IP ER K SV SHO W-L ERA VB 1 Chris Tillman BAL 96.0 15 15 89.2 31 86 0 0 10-1 3.11 12 2 Chris Sale CHW 93.2 14 14 98.0 32 93 0 1 11-2 2.94 0 3 Zach Britton BAL 90.4 28 0 29.0 3 33 21 0 2-1 0.93 12 4 Danny Salazar CLE 86.8 13 13 80.2 20 96 0 0 8-3 2.23 12 5 Cole Hamels TEX 80.6 14 14 90.2 29 87 0 0 7-1 2.88 12 6 Steven Wright BOS 79.3 14 14 98.1 22 80 0 0 8-4 2.01 0 7 Josh Tomlin CLE 77.6 13 13 81.1 30 53 0 0 8-1 3.32 12 8 Colby Lewis TEX 75.5 14 14 93.0 29 58 0 0 6-0 2.81 12 9 Jordan Zimmermann DET 69.3 13 13 86.0 31 54 0 0 9-3 3.24 0 10 Rich Hill OAK 67.7 11 11 64.0 16 74 0 0 8-3 2.25 0 Also in Fangraphs eyes, which uses numbers other than wins, which the Cy Young Predictor uses heavily.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 02:00 PM) Report: #WhiteSox sign first-round draft pick Zack Collins https://t.co/lfPoix4yO7 (@JJStankevitz) #WhiteSoxTalk https://t.co/sjid7yhRS8 https://twitter.com/CSNChicago/status/745299384255000582 It'll be interesting to see where they start him. After Smith went down the catchers got shuffled all over the org.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 02:11 PM) As in, the actual Cy Young award voted on by the people who have votes that count, or another Cy Young award winner? Because there would be no way he would win the actual Cy Young if the season ended now. As in he has been the best pitcher in the AL this year.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 01:45 PM) I pretty much agree with your comments. Hahn's big screw-ups were Shields, LaRoche (nobody saw that coming), Sharks (again, nobody saw that coming), and letting Konerko collect too much money while in severe decline. The other moves that he made that didn't work out are far less consequential, IMO. And Shields is the first move Hahn has made where my initial thought was "...this is bad."

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 01:10 PM) That's about the last thing this battered bullpen needs. Reminds me of August 2010, when Sox bullpen guys were dropping like flies, they had no one to replace them and they fell out of the race after leading the division if I recall right on August 1. Mark If I remember right, that bullpen was electric. Then it died.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) A poster at another Sox web site, compiled a list of positive and negative items in their opinion Hahn has done. I submit it here without comment for discussion purposes since that seems to be a running debate right now. "There are basically 4 things I think Hahn has done well, and 2 of them are contract based. 1.) Sale's contract 2.) Quintana's contract 3.) Sign Abreu 4.) Trade for Eaton The rest of his timeline as GM is a mess. 1.) Chose Flowers over Pierzynski AJ isn't a good choice either. Bad options all around. 2.) Jeff Keppinger for $12 million Made sense at the time, Keppinger just busted. 3.) Traded Matt Thornton (who was still productive last year and has played in the postseason) for no MLB talent. Brandon Jacobs was part of the Eaton trade 4.) Traded Jake Peavy (who went on to contribute for 2 World Series champs) into Avisail Garcia Agreed here. But Garcia was highly touted. Should have gone for Iglesias. Turned two of those trade chips into Frazier and Lawrie 5.) Traded Alex Rios (who went on to contribute for a World Series champ) into Leury Garcia. Literally everyone wanted Rios gone. This as a complain is dumb 6.) Extended Robin Ventura Agreed 7.) Paul Konerko's last 2 years for $16 million Agreed 8.) Addison Reed for Matt Davidson You do this trade every time. Declining closer for a highly rated prospect 9.) Rushed Rodon to MLB Rodon is doing just fine for a softmore 10.) Traded Dunn, Beckham, and De Aza (2 of the 3 having an impact on postseason games) for no MLB talent This is a foolish argument. Getting warm bodies was a win. 11.) Adam LaRoche for $25 million Looked good at the time, not like LaRoche was expected to bomb. 12.) Jeff Samardzija for Marcus Semien, Josh Phegley, and $10 million Traded for an All-Star. Not working in retrospect. 13.) Melky Cabrera for $42 million This deal is fine. 14.) David Robertson for $46 million This deal is fine. 15.) Todd Frazier for Trayce Thompson, Micah Johnson, and $16.5 million Until Frazier's cold spell, this deal was fine/win 16.) Mat Latos No real harm in this move 17.) Jimmy Rollins No real harm in this move 18.) Waiting at least 2 years too long before releasing John Danks It's nearly impossible to eat that much money 19.) James Shields for Erik Johnson and $27 million EJ was bad, but this deal is bad. 20.) Has refused to fire the coaching staff. Parent got fired. 21.) Spent five million on utility infielders Beckham and Bonifacio who did nothing." Utility infielders at that rate isn't a really big problem. Feel free to comment on what you think. I agree with some of the items, disagree with some others. Mark Added comments in bold.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) He wouldn't be close and prepare for an all star snub possibility too. I love Q, but get real. Ok, if voting was fair. He's been the best pitcher in the AL this year and it can't really be argued otherwise, unless we're going off wins alone.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 01:10 PM) 1. The Red Sox are not trading Bogaerts. He is untouchable. Now Betts or Bradley could probably be had in a Sale trade and to a lesser degree for Q. Q has great stats but his consistent inability to win on a team where Sale does win makes him a step down from Sale. Q might be more likely for the minor league players in a trade. Sale has to bring one stud ML starter and prospects. Bradley has more value than Betts 2. Red Sox have decided Swihart is better off in the outfield than catching. I trust their opinion more than the White Sox scouts after the Shields debackle. 3. Must get a high ranked Boston pitching prospect back in a trade. 4. I think Dombrowski will make a big time trade but I don't think Hahn will. I also don't think Dombrowski includes an ML player( Betts Bradley) until after the season unless they suddenly start to fall out of race. You do realize if the season ended today, Jose Quintana would be the AL Cy Young award winner?

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 12:36 PM) If it ain't broke don't fix it. Keep it up you two When's the last easy relaxing win? Aye

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jun 21, 2016 -> 11:49 AM) I don't know about you guys, but I'd need at least one of Betts/Bogaerts AND 3 other elite prospects in order to trade the best pitcher in the American League. Same. And I expect the same thing for Quintana.

Ah hell.

Godspeed, SoxPride18

Robin will get fired after his next loss. To save him, the players keep winning. Loses Game 1 of the World Series. It was his next loss, so he's fired. Renteria leads them to victory the next 4 games.

Insert Zach Duque joke.

Woooo!

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 10:17 PM) Shuck may be the worst player in baseball history. lol

I came to make the Zach Duque joke but everyone is goddamn making it.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 08:11 PM) I don't know why anyone can hate LeBron. He seems like a good guy. He is an amazing player, obviously the best in the business. Of course anyone saying he has now exceeded Jordan is laughable, but LeBron is a likable guy. There was the whole taking my talents to South Beach, but even he sort of apologized for that later. This is why I like the term "sports hate" Sports hate the hell out of him, but I respect him and like him off the court.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 04:59 PM) Interesting that Blake Hickman is listed as a C. Well, he played it in HS.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 01:42 PM) Will take Dirk over Olajuwon all day every day. Especially since 25 years ago cuts a lot of Hakeems career out. Ok, if we're doing the 25 years. But defensively it's not even close.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 11:55 AM) Golden State was the epitome of team basketball. Hero Ball is such a stupid description of modern NBA. This isn't 2002 anymore. You don't like basketball, move along. What is the purpose of fans that pipe in to a major sports championships just to say the sport is stupid? [insert argument about how college players care more]

At least Eddy is trending upwards.

Godspeed, SoxPride18

Lmao at this Draymond excuse. He earned his suspension.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jun 20, 2016 -> 12:13 AM) LOL Kareem won a NBA title when Magic was still in grade school. And not like LeBron did it on his own.