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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 09:00 PM) Actually, the discussion is terrible. In fili, you're allowed to take personal shots at posters because everybody thinks they're right and everybody else is wrong. That's why i stay out of here. i wouldn't last two seconds in here without getting accused of trolling. Then I would get warned by a mod and eventually suspended if i didn't succumb. I'll agree that half the time the discussion is terrible. Greg's actually been enjoyable to talk to in this thread. But some posters who I never see out of this forum, you know their argument before they post.

QUOTE (Cali @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 08:39 PM) Uh-oh... Gordon has low standards.

I thought this was going to about Dr. Pepper starting a porn company or denouncing porn.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 05:31 PM) It is awful. Thing is, there also are many many youth coaches who are abusers. Any positions of power in which an adult can prey on kids, there are abusers. Actually, we have a real shortage of priests, especially here in Kansas. Churches are having to be merged together and it's pretty awful. How are your seizures anyway? Has the situation improved at all? Are you having them all the time? Are you on medication that is helping at all? Is the medical community helping or being inefficient about helping you? I'm sure you've heard a lot of stupid stuff regarding your seizures. People should just shut the f*** up and ask you how they can help you in a practical way. Her telling you God will cure your seizures is too simplistic. I mean, yes, if I had the seizures I'd pray they go away but it's wrong to try to convert you in the belief God then will zap away your seizures. How are you doing? Do you have to go off to college? Are yu gonna be OK? They're going down. New meds are certainly helping, and the old ones (just recently off of) caused crippling depression. I have heard a lot of stupid things. Heading back to college next week? Should be fine. Who knows? As long as I don't bleed out my face again I should be fine.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 05:08 PM) Why is it not glamorous? Society has rotted to the point that all that matters is money and power like you said. Which is fine, always been that way, but there used to be tolerance and respect for those who decided to eschew money and power and give their lives to God or work for free as a missionary. Now that is considered laughable, moronic. "You want to be a missionary?? What is wrong with you???? You want to be a priest?? My gawd, where did I go wrong. Priests are molesters!!!" I still consider both missionary and priest noble professions. More power to them for living lives of poverty. society says no. No. I said I'm glad it was covered and all those guilty of cover up and abuse should be sentenced to death or life in solitary confinement. Yes I think that would have been good. But it was a pile on, making it seem to the world that priests are child molesters and that is what a priest does. It's not glamorous because there is no need for a large amount of priests. My generation is increasingly unreligious, because that's a viewpoint and way of life. There's a downturn in Priests because they live as very poor in a time where you NEED to have money for bills, housing, and living expenses. So of course there's fewer priests when there are fewer people to preach too. As for missionaries...it's like my very religious Baptist friend said. God said only he can judge, yet missionaries judge by deeming their religion is better and they must spread it. Yes, the work they do outside spreading religion is very admirable, but it's not their main cause of going. I love one of my missionaries friends very dearly yet she tried to convert me saying God would cure my seizures. She's a Born Again who partied a bit too hard before being "reborn" so she thinks that would fix me. Yet all converting would do for me is ask that I give up my free will, opinions, and change my (in my opinion) very solid morals. I don't have any character issues that need religion to fix exactly.

QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 03:46 PM) Come on now... "Evolution? You don't believe in the bible. You're an idiot." "Abortion? That a murder issue, not an equal rights issue." "Homosexuality? It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve." "Boobs on TV? Perish the thought!" "Islam? That's not a religion, that's a cult!" See what I did there? And those are stated positions of our representatives in government. Again, how is there a War Against Christianity? I'm just gonna point out that I've heard all of these far more than Jenks' examples.

Also, news coverage of just about f***ing everything is negative. Controversy sells.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 03:18 PM) No, I'm saying the coverage was so intense and the fact nobody ever said this is not a priest issue only but a societal issue (scum of the earth pedophiles are in ALL FIELDS in which they can get to kids) to the point RIGHT NOW you say the words "Catholic priest," you might as well say the word "pedophile." Sad. Today there is no doubt no kid can consider being a priest. It is a bad word to society. If you got that from my post, I presented it wrong. No, not being teased. It's parents not allowing their kids to ever even THINK about the possibility of being a priest because of the mockery of the position now. A priest is a strange pedophile now, case closed. There is something wrong with you if you want to be a priest is the common perception and that is HORRIBLE. My former priest is my life hero and mentor. AMEN Jenks. The coverage as he said is almost ALWAYS negative. Jenks rocks. No, a priest is outdated, well, at least having large amounts of them is. Parents want grandkids. Being a priest probably pays poorly. Plus, the Church protected the pedophiles, so it's the lying in the bed you make. Case closed.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 02:37 PM) I think what hurts priests is that many cant get married or have sex. Its not olden times where primogeniture reigned. Back then if you were 2nd/3rd son, priest was one of your only options because you werent getting an inheritance from your family. And if a priest has a sex, he'll become Vader.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 02:26 PM) No you guys are wrong IMO. Here's it the defiinition of a priest nowadays to liberal America: A pedophile. Cut and dried. Case closed. That is a priest to the world and that is very sad. Because yes there were a zillion pedophiles in the priesthood. Why? Because that's an occupation in which pedophiles can get to kids. Just like there are pedophiles in all occupations where sickos can get to kids. Add to that the fact the bishops committed CRIMINAL acts in protecting these scumbag pedophiles and you get today's definition of the priesthood and Catholic faith. Priest equals pedophile. Bishops equal lawbreakers. Bye bye Catholic faith DESPITE THE FACT THERE ARE TONS OF GREAT PRIESTS, one who was the biggest POSITIVE influence in my life (negative to those of you who hate my love of Ozzeroo). How am I wrong about my generation? My definition of a priest is that it's outdated and far less are needed to preach. QUOTE (illinilaw08 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 02:27 PM) I honestly don't understand this "poor Christians" mentality. As a non-practicing Catholic, I can say that the Catholic Church (note I mean the Vatican itself) should absolutely be criticized for their handling of pedophile priests. Not all priests are pedophiles, but there were men in the Church who certainly turned a blind eye to the ones that were. It must be tough to be the majority religion. Christianity is mocked. Islam is mocked. Mormons are mocked. Every religion is mocked. Christians in government don't sit back and take it either. They amend state constituitions to make sure those icky gays cannot ever get married. They pass laws to make sure that evolution isn't taught in schools and that creationism is given equal time (without, of course, giving equal time to the creation beliefs of other religions). I don't understand what fight, exactly, it is that the Liberal boogeyman has won. +1

QUOTE (jhonnydanks @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 01:18 PM) my ability to post this year was really hampered by a shoulder

QUOTE (CrimsonWeltall @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 02:19 PM) If your church is lacking people interested in becoming priests, I doubt political correctness has anything to do with it. Young people simply aren't that religious compared to past generations. We have a winner.

I'm going the 4th.

LMAO at always being monogamous. And Greg, in a diverse nation, there's really no need for Government officials to use God's name unless they g through Yahweh, Allah, Vishnu, Buddha, Scientology God, etc. It's not a Christian nation. It's an incredibly diverse nation.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 09:16 AM) From a believer but not necessarily a practicing Christian, being Christian in today's society, especially in the sub-35 year old age group, is equated to being a gay-hating, science-denying redneck. The liberals have absolutely won that fight, and there's really no debate about it. I think that was Greg's point. Um, no. We're just more open minded to being acccepting of other religions, orientations, and creeds in this generation. In my hometown, more people were Christian then not. The difference being they don't shove it on others. Almost all of my best friends are Christian, some very devote. I know they are, they know I'm a former Jewish Atheist. We never talk about it because it's pointless. One did try to convert me, I told her it was pointless and that the beauty of beliefs is that we are all right. The thing is, it's the people who are so vocal about their beliefs and try to make others folloe them that are looked down on. Because there are more Christians and the fact that Christians were allowed to do that for centuries, there are more vocal Christians.

Griffey wouldn't accept it. Nor would any self respecting athlete.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 03:25 AM) Scary? It's rather tame. Ozzie is scary. He's a crappy journalist and his sources are always wrong. What makes them all of the sudden right? He spreads lies to get others fired or spreads their personal information. That's sleazy. Cooper asked about an extension since his contract was up this year. Ozzie demanded one despite having a deal next year. You apparently LOVE backstabbers. If this was the 1950's, Ozzie wouldn't be managing or allowed near Coop, but changing Ozzie's ethnicity, his ass would get kicked by Buerhle, Hawk, Stone, Paulie, Swisher, Cabrera, Lee, Tracey, Ordonez, A-Rod, Sean Penn, Joe West, KW, Garland, McCarthy, Thome, Morel, Teahen, etc. Oney's ass would get kicked, Ozney would fail in the Minors Yeah, because assaulting people isn't ok. You're seriously f***ing justifying assault to make Ozzie look cool. I'd like to take back that West would do anything. f*** that guy. Not sure what I was quoting... QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 12:34 PM) "Adam Dunn has just homered in 57 straight games." Re: Greg saying Robin was stupid in Nolan fight. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 9, 2011 -> 03:18 PM) This is so very ignorant. Options? QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 10, 2011 -> 12:53 AM) Honestly, Paulie as manager would have been cool. Quoting SS2k5 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 11, 2011 -> 09:48 PM) Who gives a f*** if he is a good interview? Seriously, that is just a horrible thing to worry about for a manager.

Collected my posts... First, I was confused. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 04:11 PM) ...the f***? Then, I was was a conspiracy theorist. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 04:14 PM) I feel like this is Kenny setting up a 90's Sox Reunion and just not inviting Walker or Ozzie to spite them. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 04:21 PM) Ray Durham should be named bench coach (take over Cora's role). Black Jack can be the bullpen coach. Harold first base coach. Frank is the hitting coach. Name Valentin the 3rd base coach. It's a big 90's reunion with Ozzie not invited. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 04:28 PM) "Come see all your favorite players manage together! Except Ozzie, f*** that guy." Then, I was accepting. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 07:54 PM) I'm not as mad as I thought, I wanted Robin to be Martinez's bench coach after all. I think Robin can do it, I just want to know why Martinez and Alomar were all passed over. Then, f*** Cowley. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 6, 2011 -> 09:21 PM) It's funny cause Cowley is a bad journalist. This. Guys, its MLB manager. The decisions aren't hard with modern day stats ready 24/7, unless you're Ozzie. If he can help people, which he has enough baseball knowledge and seemingly-not-asshole persona that he probably can. Is it the best hire? No. He would have been my fourth choice, but come on. Then, the start of me and Greg disagreeing on everything. Except that Charlie Weis is fat. Greg, I'm gonna apologize for the months of warring. QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 7, 2011 -> 01:55 AM) Did Greg just say great column by Cowley? I can write one with my "sources" just as easily. Cowley's a hack who only go to where he is by sucking up.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 01:45 AM) God is under siege. It is not PC to mention God, that is why I loved Bush for mentioning God all the fricking time. I like Obama, but he does not mention God much. He did once on TV as I recall, though. I liked it. Yeah, about that. It's not that God is under siege, it's that the country is becoming more diverse. Not everyone believes in the Christian God or a god in general. It's politically correct still, it's just that it doesn't appeal to nearly as many people as before and there is a chance that it can be construed as Christianity trying to reinforce it's place as the dominant religion, which is true in certain capacities. For example, I'd remove "Under God" from the Pledge, because not everyone believes in God and it wasn't there originally. This is the transition from being a very Christian nation to way more diverse.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 01:10 AM) But everybody can mock away at those who believe because it's allowed. Other groups are protected. I wouldn't say it's so easy to just blast away at Christians. The majority of people in the country are Christian, so there are more people to offend. However, it is due to the relatively vocal nature (greatly aided by the fact that there are more Christians then others) that Christians are generally more susceptible to attack. Not trying to justify it, just think of a reason why.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Aug 1, 2012 -> 06:26 PM) My brother-in-law is currently in the Air Force and decided to re-enlist for another 4 years. They gave him a list of places he could be based out of. My sister and him went through and created a list of places they want to go. One option they gave him was an unnamed base in Nevada where he gets on an unmarked bus Monday morning, travels to the unnamed base, and returns Friday afternoon; he would also be sworn to secrecy and never allowed to discuss his job. Yea, I think you and I both know the "real" name of this base. They decided to NOT list that as an option because she doesnt want him gone 5 days a week. Vegas?

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 2, 2012 -> 12:41 AM) I do not believe that there is good reason to be a lover of the Bible AND be opposed to homosexuality.

Ideally, I'd like our rotation going into next to be: Sale Peavy Liriano Floyd/RH Upgrade From Floyd acquired via trade Quintana The problem is Danks. We can't trade him, but we really can't keep the Sale/Liriano/Quintana trio in the rotation with him. And maybe Jake would take 3/39, which would be his option next year + the $4M buyout + a third year at the same rate. Offer another buyout at the end of it worth around $2M and he might take it.

I'm going to start a day. "I've only had Chick-Fil-A once and it was ok but there aren't many near me and I prefer Subway and Steak & Shake to them so I'll just continue to eat at those locations instead of CFA and In-N-Out, not because of their political and theological values with which I disagree with, but because I don't really care all that much for them" Day.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 1, 2012 -> 03:04 PM) I feel bad trolling, but Flapship is covering the s*** out of this. http://flapship.com/the-continueddefiance-of-penn-state/ Those commenters have pissed me off so much. I basically wrote another article responding to them.