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Think of this way. We either have to deal with more LeBron love than usual...or we get to relish in his absolute collapse. Wilt was the first player to lose a 3-1 series lead, so it can happen.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 21, 2012 -> 02:05 PM) You had to wear it, DeAza, but your pitchers should have retaliated for you. It's bulls*** to let the Cubs nearly end Paulie's career and hit DeAza. The fact the Sox weren't still so pissed about Paulie to win the series tells me a lot about this team. It's going nowhere. Great great post. Pitching Stewart was an insult to every Sox fan alive. ANYBODY BUT ZACH is my motto. That was not even close to ending Paulie's career.

For the current Bulls, Noah would fill the Rodman role in that he's versatile (and good) defensively, hustles, and grabs boards. Rose fills the Jordan role. The problem si there's no Pippen or Kukoc to take pressure off of Rose with shot creating. Obviously, that was not saying that Noah is Rodman or Rose is Jordan, just their roles, for anyone who wants to freak out about it. But anyone that wants to talk about how valuable Deng is, lets remember that he wasn't this current iteration of Deng until Thibs showed up. The old Deng is basically gone, he doesn't slash nearly as much and doesn't have the lethal midrange shot anymore. But, he became a better three point shooter and defender. I think that's a result of Thibs, so I think Thibs could do that with Barnes, though Barnes will most likely be taken by Cleveland, since Washington will probably take Beal now. Meanwhile, Noah's are incredibly rare, because he is the perfect center for Rose. He can run the floor with Rose, pass, hustles, etc.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 21, 2012 -> 11:46 AM) My god. How can you say that about a WS winning manager. He was a great character too. He left that cheapskate bastard Comiskey and his name was Pants. How dare they insult the man that brought Chicago a World Series for the first time in 11 years.

As long as Rose is here, Noah is here unless a superstar is on the other end of the trade.

The only answer is to win the season series. Oh wait.

Here's my thoughts on it: Is he free or close to it? Yes? Pull the trigger, might as well. No? f*** that s***, I'll buy Morel some ibuprofen.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 11:32 PM) Still, it was a way for the Cubs to get the last word in. They took 2 of 3 and plunked DeAza. Cubs win; Cubs win. BUT WE HAVE THE BP CUP!

FLOYD AND SLAYER!

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 06:29 PM) 7 titles, Q. SEVEN Titles! His Wikipedia page has its own section just for all the clutch shots he hit. Best role player of all time for sure. But not an all-star, all-nba, or HoF player. The point is, Hakeem is the goat using Salley logic.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 05:51 PM) Only for the 2nd title. But he had Big Shot Bob for both titles, so that automatically disqualifies him from this discussion. It's not like Horry was a great player, plus he was a rookie in 94.

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 03:10 PM) John Salley took a big s*** on Michael Jordan on ESPN today. Said MJ doesn't make his top 5 best players, implies that MJ would not have been successful if he didn't have Phil Jackson coaching him, declares Magic Johnson far and away the GOAT And Magic had Kareem and Riley, so he's not a top 5 either. Hakeem is the GOAT if we want to start playing the whole "hsd great coach/teammates" thing.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 10:05 AM) Wait a minute. Did you just suggest that Bill Russell is one of the 4 greatest players to ever live? We're done, Q. Forever. Wait a minute, bolded part... QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 09:50 AM) Age 27 was Jordan's 7th year in the league. It's LeBron's 9th. Kobe won his first at age 21 in his 4th year. LeBron's shot at being GOAT is gone, partially because Jordan's resume reads like a myth, Kareem's longevity and dominance put him up there, Wilt was an inhuman machine, and Russell has 11 rings. Those are the four I always see as main GOAT contenders (though I obviously think it's Jordan and I don't feel Russell should be up there) and I can't see LeBron matching any of those four. That being said, if the Heat go on a crazy run, I can see LeBron punching his way into the Top 5. My top five is this: 1. Jordan 2. Wilt 3. Kareem 4. Magic 5. Bird

I'm going tonight, because my dad bought tickets when Sale was pitching. So Floyd, don't suck. I expect a Saleian effort.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 09:18 AM) It depends on what type of run the Heat are about to go on, because statistically, you can't argue with LeBron being one of the best ever. He's the age that Jordan won his first title, and already more accomplished in piling up stats across the board. LeBron can finally not be a villain, because people can finally stop being terrified of the "big three" winning a title. This is LeBron's title, and Wade and Bosh have simply been spectators. ...waits for the Thunder to make history to make this post look dumb. Age 27 was Jordan's 7th year in the league. It's LeBron's 9th. Kobe won his first at age 21 in his 4th year. LeBron's shot at being GOAT is gone, partially because Jordan's resume reads like a myth, Kareem's longevity and dominance put him up there, Wilt was an inhuman machine, and Russell has 11 rings. Those are the four I always see as main GOAT contenders (though I obviously think it's Jordan and I don't feel Russell should be up there) and I can't see LeBron matching any of those four. That being said, if the Heat go on a crazy run, I can see LeBron punching his way into the Top 5.

So, has anyone here done the insanity workout? I don't feel like the gym is working like I want it too.

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Home runs do that.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jun 20, 2012 -> 07:08 AM) This week has been a kick in the nuts, sports-wise. Hey Gavin, how about you forget your current little "streak" and go out and do something awesome? thx bye I agree with this post.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 10:59 PM) Then most people need to get over it. They had a tie game tonight and James left the game... Mostly. They played stupid. They were also up 33-16 and went into halftime only up three. Get over the refs. This is on the Thunder. Oh yeah, the Thunder blew it, but I've just gotten sick of the officiating. I'm mad that Durant fouled LeBron and it was called on Collison. It's so damn annoying.

Wait a second...how did they just get five magical seconds on the clock?

Oh Westbrook...

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Jun 19, 2012 -> 10:31 PM) GTFO. That was a clear foul. Or how about no, I won't get the f*** out? I'm allowed to state my opinion. Bosh flopped like he always f***ing does. Yeah, there was contact, but Bosh fell to the ground like he got shot. I've never seen someone get hit in the arms fall like that.

THAT WAS NOT A FOUL ON DURANT. I'M SO TIRED f***ING FLOPPING.

HOW WAS DURANT NOT FOULED THERE?!