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QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 04:06 PM) I'd offer the opinion that its a bit early to consider him an ML quality hitter. He's also not that great of a catcher. And yet he's so much MORE of a sure thing than literally every hitting prospect that hasn't seen the Majors yet. And if we acquired him, he would be part of a C/1B/DH rotation with Phegley and Dunn.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 04:05 PM) Well we have those so this report isn't saying too much. That was my thought too

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 04:02 PM) Some people in this thread are way too excited about Evan Gattis. The guy is a 26 year old ML quality hitter. What does this team need more than that?

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 03:55 PM) Uhhh what's more MLB ready than a player who's already in the MLB? His last 2 years in the minors were incredible. 2011.322/.382/.601 2012.305/.389/.607 And now in 2013 all he's done is put up an .878 OPS, hit 15 HRs and drove in 39 in 191 ABs. Those numbers would be good for 2nd in HRs and 4th in RBIs on our team and the guys ahead of him have 200 more ABs than him. This is it. Those who want a quick rebuild should be in favor of getting guys who are already seeing success in the Majors and have never struggled at any level. Gattis has been on record saying the media has overhyped his "depression issues" and that his hiatus was much more related to him second guessing whether opr not he wanted to commit to baseball -- which is not THAT unreasonable for any minor leaguer.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 03:59 PM) Ah s***...I need an energy drink I hate this season

Crap, didn't realize this was a day game. How did Peavy look?

I think he was having some struggles deciding on committing to baseball or something. I'd imagine that stuff is in the past now that he's in the Majors.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 02:32 PM) The reason people keep bringing them up is that they seem like a team with a real bullpen need who might overpay for a closer, and they have a guy (Castellanos) who might well be a guy you'd say "They seriously gave him up just to get a closer"? Yeah, it'll probably never happen, but man wouldn't it be nice just to finally steal one of these exciting young guys for once, a la Wheeler for Beltran? This season sucks, we need something to be happy about.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 02:53 PM) Evan Gattis would have been nice before Pheg-mania started. Move Gattis to 1B? I'd be down for that, especially because I think Phegley will end up more like a productive, average-ish guy than an impact talent. Plus it seems like rotating catching duties is all the rage for keeping guys healthy. The problem with it is that I think Oso Blanco has become rather popular in ATL, and I'm not convinced they are going to re-sign McCann.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 02:51 PM) I could definitely see Quintana or Santiago being traded this offseason. Danks is immovable for at least another year, and I don't think we will see the Sox acquire a big time young bat like Adams (or someone else similar) this deadline like we had hopes for previously. Thus, Quintana and Santiago are the best chips the organization has to acquiring a young, cost controlled, talented bat. Maybe someone like Brett Lawrie, I don't know, but I see something like that happening. Ideally Danks would be shipped out, but the only way that happens is if you take on another bad contract, and hopefully my feelings are wrong and turns out to become an above average pitcher again. Also, I don't think Danks, Quintana, and Santiago are good enough to justify having a rotation of 4 lefties. Teams like balance, and the Sox showed this when Axelrod was in the rotation over Santiago to begin the year. If they were all studs like Sale, who cares, but the other three have obvious flaws and quite frankly, I think it is a disadvantage against the Sox to have situations where they run out 3, maybe 4 lefties in a row in a single series. Part of a lefties success is that hitters are naturally more used to seeing righties, but on that 2nd, 3rd, and/or 4th game, that advantage is gone because they have seen lefties all series. Maybe I'm wrong, but I see a rotation of Sale, Danks, Quintana/Santiago, Johnson, and a RH FA next year. This is me just tossing around names right now playing arm chair GM, but maybe Tim Lincecum could be a target for the Sox on a 1 year deal with an option for the 2nd year where he tries to build his value back up for one more big contract. Its an interesting name and on a one year deal, he could also be a trade chip at the deadline if the Sox are bad again next year. Or he could have to moved to the bullpen, and he might succeed there. Either way, I don't see any team giving him a big contract. I think most of this is spot on, especially if you consider that moving a Santiago/Quintana type could get the Sox some offensive talent. If the team really wants to have a relatively quick turn-around, trading from depth to balance out the team could be the best approach for more than one reason.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 02:47 PM) As expected, just wouldn't want to trade with him. Not enough pieces. Yeah, all their best guys are pitchers. Best we could do on the hitting end would seem to be Bethancourt/Terdoslavich/La Stella

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 02:43 PM) I swear that this is a product of the Chicago media. Garza was not considered an ace when the Cubs got him. I think it's more about a misconception with Peavy -- he never got the visibility and respect he deserved for his performance last year. I don't think people know how good he was, but you can bet that front offices do.

Braves considering rotation help with Hudson down, scouting Peavy tonight: http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/07/brav...ation-help.html

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 02:16 PM) Then there continues to be zero reason to trade Reed. The only reason to trade a closer this far away from free agency is if someone knocks your socks off. I keep saying, the response to any trade of Reed should be "wow, I can't believe team x gave up that guy for a closer". I agree with you. I think DET is a bad fit for us here.

I just don't really want anything in their system except Castellanos, and I don't think he would be on the table for a RP like Reed.

This is so stressful

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/jake-peavy-...ight-be-better/

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 02:24 PM) Yes, contending teams or teams in the off season. I am not saying we should keep him, I am saying that production at that position, even with the decline he has had the last couple seasons, is hard to replace. Teams aren't going to line up to trade a player like that in the off season. Agreed.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 02:18 PM) Not to nitpick, but I'd bet a lot of people would put Sano ahead of him as well. Perhaps, but I haven't seen any midseason lists that have done so yet. Regardless, Bogaerts is safely in the "untouchable unless I'm Dayton Moore" category.

I think they'd laugh us off the phone if we asked for Russell.

Hopefully Beane is just playing trade police and making sure none of his potential WC rivals get an upgrade without paying full price.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 11:27 AM) Teams dont trade SS's with production like Ramirez because they are too difficult to replace. SS is largely a defensive position and getting a guy that can add solid offense from that position is a gold mine. In theory in works, but in practice there just aren't guys out there that you can acquire that fit the bill. You mean CONTENDING teams don't trade SS like that. Some of you people are acting like we don;t have the worst record in baseball outside of the Marlins and Astors, two teams not even trying to SEEM like they are trying to win. There are rebuilding teams with better records than us. This team is not good enough to win, Alexei is 32 and getting worse quickly -- he's got to go.

I would have like Delmonico for Crain. He's the type of guy the ML team is gonna need in a year or two.

QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) The only guy that would be attractive from Oakland would be Grant Green (not including Russel). Jemile Weeks maybe, but definitely not the centerpiece of any deal. Overall, I don't see it. Sonny Gray would be nice #2 piece, and would make sense since he's in line for the back of their rotation

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 01:16 PM) Is Xander Bogaerts just out of the question completely? Absolutely, he's a consensus top 2 prospect in all of baseball, usually behind only Buxton.