Eminor3rd

Taking a step back, I don't see how you can say no to a current plus hit tool with above average athleticism and work ethic.

The worst part of this post is that Chris Volstad is currently on our team.

This may be the single tankiest moment of this entire rebuild.

Wait, are you serious? No one, in this thread that is titled "Eloy Jimenez," where in the original post, the poster says "Why not bring Eloy Jimenez up now?" is suggesting that Eloy should be called up now?

What I've read is that the only thing holding back from being a SS is his arm, but that he'd probably be playing there anyway except that OSU has some other younger future draft prospect with a slick glove.

And those coaches are saying he isn't ready yet. That's the whole point. We don't want to disrupt the process just because this team is hard to watch on TV right now.

Nope -- great analogy. Problem is your kitchen remodel wasn't ambitious enough!

So the solution is to sabotage them?

While that is certainly a difference between the situation and the analogy, I don't think it's related at all to the point he's making. I don't think anyone in this thread is saying "we should rush Eloy/Kopech because the rebuild might end up failing anyway." They're saying "we should rush Eloy/Kopech because this is rebuild is excruciating."

In Japanese, Palka translates to パルカ

Of course yes -- in that our fanbase will overrate him vastly. Lol, sorry.

POTY

I wouldn't say Swaggerty is underwhelming as much as he's risky. The Sox don't seem to have had any luck at all developing guys who lack the hit tool.

Eminor3rd 1:57 Given that picks 2-6 or so look like they'll have players of the same "tier," is it valid, at all, to say that it makes sense to go with a college position player in order to reduce risk? Keith Law 1:58 I'm a little lost on this one. I think those picks will all be college position players. However, I think there are a couple of HS players who might make sense up there - Carter Stewart in particular - but who, for various reasons, aren't likely to go that high.

I'm on the Madrigal/Bohm train. I'm not worried about the amount of pitching talent in the system. These assets are fungible. All else equal, high-hit tool position players are the safest picks, and can be traded for mid-rotation arms later if it comes to that.

I didn't like the pick at the time because I've never thought he was going to stay at third. Watch the grounders from about :30 - 1:15

It was a bad pick at the time, even before all this.

Delmonico has no business playing the field at all.

Wimpy was the only guy with enough self-respect to truly effectively play the sideman to Hawk. Good times.

Greg, the White Sox have been doing exactly what you're asking every year since 2005, it's failed 100% of the time, and you are constantly calling for everyone to be fired.

Right -- remember all those conversations we all had where we asked ourselves if the top two free agents in the class would be enough to make us a contender with Sale, Quintana, and Eaton as a core? Ok, now ask the same question except without Sale, Quintana, and Eaton.

Blowing $30-50mm on multi-year deals for Jake Arrieta and Mike Moustakas, just to win 71 games instead of 64, earning us a worse draft pick in the short term and tying up resources and roster spots on declining veterans during our competitive window instead of using those resources to get better players that fills important voids on the roster.

He's toxic.

Look, you can be anti-rebuild. I don't agree, but can respect that stance. You can hate the strategy or the execution or both. But there is NO argument to ABANDON it at this point. It's happening, it's underway, and we've begun paying the price. Why on earth would you want them to stop NOW? Do you realize how much worse it would be NOT to stay the course?

Again -- you're citing single occurrences as if they're trends or facts. You're essentially saying, "Epstein was smart enough to hire Maddon when he was available. Why won't Hahn hire Maddon?" Well, because Maddon isn't available. It's the same reason the Sox didn't draft Kris Bryant. When we look to past successes for inspiration or direction, we need to focus on strategic points that can be applied to today's situation, and avoid getting caught up on specific decisions that are irrelevant to today's game. Example: BAD LOGIC -- The Cubs ended up with a ton of great young positional prospects, but not enough pitchers. So they signed Jon Lester and won the World Series. Therefore, the White Sox should make sure they focus only on hitters and that they have enough money to sign a big free agent pitcher when they want to contend. GOOD LOGIC -- The Cubs focused on amassing high-upside talent, regardless of position, from every possible source -- draft, International signings, trades, waiver claims, post-hype reclamations projects, etc. Then, when enough of that talent arrived to make the team interesting, they used money to acquire veterans to fill in the gaps that were left. The White Sox should also do this.