ShandyMan

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 09:38 PM) Only deal I give up Anderson in is one for Puig, which wouldn't make sense from the Dodgers perspective since they have Seager. I'd be cautious even with that. I really like Anderson and think he will be our SS for the next 10 years once he arrives.

I'd really rather have CarGo than Upton since Upton will require so much more and he leaves at the end of season.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 09:32 PM) Funny because Longoria was semi floated months ago IIRC I remember that. I also remember the consensus being that it would require Rodon, Anderson, etc.. Any chance that has changed at this point with the season he's having?

Now that everyone thinks we wont trade Shark, watch us go out and trade him. Figures.

If we're trading Anderson, we had better be getting someone like Longoria

I still agree with taking the chance on the WP

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 28, 2015 -> 06:29 PM) Who are the young core hitters? Eaton and Abreu, basically. Are you already counting Sanchez and Saladino? As far as the Royals go, they'll have Volquez, Duffy, Ventura, Kyle Zimmer, Medlen....a free agent signing, and probably one of Guthrie/Blanton/Chris Young/Hochevar as the long man but they're undoubtedly going to get another starter before next season. I'm not sure where this idea of losing many pieces of the bullpen is coming from, they'll still have their core set-up guys in Escobar and Davis. Davis will make $8 million in 2016, and $10 million in 2017 (those are club options with with a $2.5 million buyout in 2017). They have Herrera for next season at $2.55 million. Holland has been very shaky for the last two months and might be replaced. They are stuck with Jason Vargas' deal for 2016, but if he misses the full season, they'll get 35-40% back in insurance payments. There's a $10 million mutual option on Medlen with a $1 million buyout. Fwiw, their recent first rounder (Ashe Russell) was somewhere in the 90's, and then there's Mondesi, so still two Top 100 guys, barely. Abreu/Eaton is a pretty good start. Avi still has great potential 5-7 years from now and we'll likely add another bat just like the Royals will add a pitcher. Medlen isn't doing anything crazy for the Royals and Volquez isn't anything special. Zimmer has proven nothing and Ventura seems like he is a head case. They'll have a solid core with Perez and Hosmer for a while. I just believe that we have a better outlook.

MIN > Sox > CLEV > KC > DET in terms of 5-7 year outlook IMO Min has an incredible farm system. We have an extremely strong pitching rotation with some young core hitters. KC is blowing up their farm to win this year/next year, and will likely lose many pieces from their bullpen and Alex Gordon. They also have little in terms of long term pitching value. DET is aging extremely fast, saddled with huge contracts, and little farm talent.

John Danks + Matt Davidson. Sure i'll take that.

The sox were never going to get Hoffman in a deal for Shark. The news about the FO is a little bit unsettling, but I still believe that they will make the right moves.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:23 PM) So Tim Anderson package? Anyone but. Maybe something like Avi, Montas, Adams and May

I'm sure EJ is with the team right now. But Shark starts.

QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 11:09 PM) I personally would much rather move Avi, Montas in a package for Cargo plus Cash. I like Q too much to move him. I'd rather do this as well.

Surprised to see so many with Danish ahead of Adams. Anyone care to elaborate? Just curious.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 27, 2015 -> 04:54 PM) Yuck. Agree. Interesting idea though. Short term that trade makes us a lot better. Long term, with Shields backloaded contract and Upton being 100% going to FA after the season.... yuck.

I think so. It also changes the type of talent you might be looking for with a player like Shark. In our situations, you could see a lot more 1 for 1 type deals where we would receive a MLB player in return. While in a complete rebuild, you are looking for volume in the form of prospects. You could also get a few prospects and then use those same prospects to build packages for other players. I think that we are by no means completely selling, they are trying to tweak the team for 2016 and pray for this year. Shark is gone though.

At this point it's Sale's to lose IMO.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 26, 2015 -> 04:13 PM) And selling will help that? We are in a complicated spot Doing nothing won't help either. It's not about the longshot that this season is. It's about 2016/2017/2018 and so on. A comp pick for Shark has little chance to ever help this team. Get some close to MLB talent.

We're still sellers. Shark is still gone.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 25, 2015 -> 02:17 PM) Trust me, Sox will be shipping him to Toronto, so those of you who study it, what would be a proper return from the Jays? What would be the least that would satisfy you? One of Pentecost/Pompey + a couple lottery tickets. Not expecting both.

Sale's contract is peanuts to Dodgers. They have the money to resign Greinke when he's up. Having a 123 of Kershaw/Sale/Greinke would be just downright stupid. As long as you make it to the playoffs you're golden.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 02:28 PM) I'm with ya. I'm thinking Q unless the Sox changed their minds on Sale. I'd be asking the Dodgers for a ransom for Q. Seager +

QUOTE (thedoctor @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 12:16 PM) some video of fulmer's start I love the 110% effort you can tell he brings.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 24, 2015 -> 09:33 AM) I am through an episode and a half of Tut, so far I am pretty disappointed. Really? Sorry about that. I really enjoyed it.

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 23, 2015 -> 03:33 PM) Thats a little vague though, it may mean that the Sox were deciding which package to accept for Shark and comparing them against the value of the comp pick and Houston was nervous that the Sox wouldn't take their offer and moved on. The package that OAK got was OK, but it sounds like Nottingham is pretty questionable to stick at C and the P projects as a RP. Not really a return I would jump at unless you really love Nottinghams bat and think he can place elsewhere. That's how interpreted it. I took it as they gave the sox an offer, which they said they'll get back to them while considering other offers. I did not see it as "hey we might still be contending".