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QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 01:19 AM) We all have to remember that Garland's impending trip to free agency after 2006 shoots down his trade value a great deal, especially when teams throw 5-year, $50+ million contracts at him. Which, when you consider any possible 6-man rotation, lends credence to the White Sox trading Garland now. Are you going to trade him now, with a full year of service under a team, or midseason? If you believe is value is lessened now, just wait until June. I don't believe Williams has a rotation set in mind to battle possible injuries (Garcia--WBC). And neither do I believe McCarthy deserves to be in the bullpen. He'll be lucky to work more than 3 innings in any one game he pitches. Don't do this to him. Where's the Kenny Williams' of the league? Where's the person willing to overpay? Someone has to be willing to give up talent in exchange for pitching.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 12:15 AM) Quick note: there were rumblings earlier that Arizona was trying to get Cotts included in the deal. Please don't do that KW! It better not include Cotts. I trust Williams is a sane man, and those requests earlier were before Chris Young was included.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 12:03 AM) As in Duke/Young/ML Reliever for Vazquez + Cash. My ass it's under those conditions. If we're giving up Duque, Young, AND a major league reliever for Vazquez that cash figure better represent a sizable portion of the contract. Or a stud prospect of theirs better be included. f*** this overpaying s***. I'm tired of it. If we're trading Garland, and Blalock (for example) is what we receive, one of their stud pitching prospects are going to be included. I don't care if he's a FA next season. Texas can remain in the perpetual pitching rut unless they accept those conditions.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 11:50 PM) Rotoworld's already bashing the trade from the Sox point of view. If this trade is legit, I'm thrilled to get rid of Duque, who easily had the worst contract on the team. I'm serious when I speculate Rotoworld has NEVER complimented any trade of Williams' within the last two years. Just as they seemingly praise Beane's acqusitions and trades every opportunity given. I just don't like the position this trade puts us in. It's obvious Garland is going to be delt, and since he's likely seeking a large contract in 2007, he'll net the White Sox less in return. For once this offseason, I'd like some other team to overpay for our player. If Williams can't field a legitimate offer for Garland, leave McCarthy in the bullpen. Because I'm not giving up Garland unless a top-tier reliever, immediate impact outfielder/infielder, or prospect is included.

You can about finalize this deal--MLB is reporting it on their main page. Goodbye Duque, Young--and soon, Garland.

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 11:14 PM) CBS Sportsline: Deal close, involves El Duque & Young for Vasquez Disregard if already posted. So, we'd resist trading Garland, and instead have a 6 man rotation? And the absence of Chris Young? :headshake This would indicate either another trade is in the works for Garland, or McCarthy is destined for the bullpen. Trading Garland, regardless of his contract situation, should--at the least--bring back a quality reliever and prospect.

QUOTE(CubKilla @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 10:06 PM) Hopefully his upcoming death is as painful as the suffering his victims and his victims families went through...... though I know it won't be. I recall a criminal justice professor of mine alledging the lethal injection is infact painful if administered incorrectly. Which is entirely possible. The terminal agent within the mixture (responsible for stopping the heart) is an acidic compound which, if the prisoner has sensation in his body, supposedly burns when traveling through veins. If anyone was willing to make someone suffer in their last moments, they'd create a mixture which prevents the prisoner from falling asleep, yet allows them to continue feeling pain without displaying it. I have a feeling Timothy McVeigh's lethal injection mixture was "accidentally" tampered with.

QUOTE(Nokona @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 07:32 PM) Hilarious. the god-fearing republicans are running around dancing as a man is put to death. "Let God Sort 'Em." Yup. That's what Jesus would have preached. Here we have a man who has been nominated for FIVE NOBEL PEACE PRIZES. FIVE. He has been awarded Presidential honors. He is now making a contribution to society from behind bars and you all want him to die. George Bush was running around doing coke and dodging drafts. Should he be punished for what he did in his past? -Oh and when you ask if he killed anyone, what if his plane was shot down? I'm pretty damn sure 50,000+ Iraqis would still be alive. I don't consider myself a God-fearing republican. Infact, I'd be willing to label myself a conservative. On the issue of the death-penalty, I'm not a complete advocate of its use. Mr. Tookie, however, deserves death. I don't give a f*** how he "contributed" to society, or how many Nobel Peace nominations he's received. It doesn't erase the crimes commited 30 years ago. How about instead of writing books and establishing crime-free organizations, he--I don't know--shows remorse for his actions? Or possibly give up information related to unsolved murders or other criminal-related activity? Oh right, he couldn't do that and disobey the "code of the streets." He might be shunned within the Crips!

It's amazing liberals believe Williams legitimately reformed himself within prison. That issue, however you perceive it, is completely void of the 4 murders he committed over thirty years ago. How do his actions within the last ten years overshadow the horrendous crimes perpetrated? Oh, because he wrote Children books detailing the dangers of gang activity clemency should be granted! HE"S REFORMED!!! Let him "rot" in prison. Anyone here willing to speculate imprisoned Crip members may be protecting him? I doubt prison life is too troubling for Tookie. Someone who shows no remorse for his actions, nor accepts responsibility, should be left in prison for life!!! Deceased families are not the true victims here. Our justice system is! Life in prison gives him time to reflect on his actions. Well, what matters is he'll be dead tomorrow morning. World is better for it. Children's literature and current Crip gang members, however, will never be the same.

So, Boston has an extra 15 million available? Or will Gammons and the ESPN employees begin a media blitz to convince Clemens no teams exist West of the Mississippi. Honestly--he should be happy to accept 1 million to play on the East Coast. Just imagine the storylines! "Clemens returns to historic Fenway Park to oppose his former team, New York Yankees." I just got excited.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 01:23 AM) Basically, I'm looking at it like the Duke is Damaso's replacement. Another reliever would just be an extra I guess you could say, that's why I honestly have no problem with a Baj or Munoz. I do love the Dotel idea though. Anyways, I think Orlando will be much better in the pen then Damaso was last year, his arm is so much stronger coming out of the pen that it makes his junk much better as well. Cheat makes a good point about Kenny not even giving Ozzie a chance to be cute with a 2nd lefty. If Duque is willing to work out of the bullpen, I'd have no problem with that. Quotes from Guillen several weeks ago didn't appear too open to the idea. Perhaps his position has changed with Marte gone.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 01:14 AM) I would not mind Mullholand He is not bad for the occasional lefty out from the pen...we can always upgrade at trade deadline....maybe get Eddie Guardardo from the Ms then Championship teams don't trade relievers and replace them with Mullholand. I better not hear his old ass connected with our club in any form. I don't approve the philosophy of simply treading water with a terrible pitcher and potentially upgrading them midseason. I'd prefer Williams works out his problems now. That's what the offseason is for. Don't leave positions open for your roster and merely hope a player is available at the trading deadline. Do it now.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 01:02 AM) Marte literally was horrendous last year, I won't be happy with any reliever that duplicates Damaso's year. If Marte was horrendous, what was Mike Jackson two seasons ago? Or Shingo Takatsu earlier last season? I don't want our ballclub to endure any pitching retread (ie, the remaining FA bullpen help) that will remind us of the previously mentioned players. Not many appear worried about trading Marte. If you believe he departure was neccessary, fine. Now, locate a suitable replacement. Where's he going to come from, for how much, and is the pitcher of equal or greater value? I just won't accept a drop in bullpen production for the sake of a supersub in Macowiak. Signing Dotel seems a reasonable solution, but it doesn't help us for the first several months.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 11, 2005 -> 10:49 PM) Dotel is now saying that he won't be ready to pitch until midseason. http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/index.ssf?...9580.xml&coll=1 There's no way Kenny signs a reliever that won't be able to pitch for half the season when we already have Hermanson who may miss time with his back. If Williams won't, another team will. Hermanson's back troubles, if anything, should give Williams more initiative to sign Dotel. In the event Hermanson requires an extended amount of time off, it'd be nice to have an option such as Dotel available midseason IF options aren't available via trade or minor leagues. Or in the unfortunate circumstance of an injury to another reliever. It doesn't matter to me whether a left-hander is sign specifically for the duty of retiring left-handers. My concern? Williams better locate a reliever of equal or greater value than Marte. And despite the consensus Marte was a headcase and seemingly worthless to this team, I'll GUARANTEE we'll be happy if his replacement deplicates Marte's numbers from last year.

Robert DeNiro can't save him now. Dumb bastard. Ironic how someone who seemingly learns from his mistakes in Bronx Tale is involved in the slaying of a police officer. Hope he finds himself a nice prison mate willing to protect his worthless ass. I'm sure his stereotypical tough guy, Italian image that has graced his well known acting performances will earn the resoect of fellow convicts.

QUOTE(bmags @ Dec 10, 2005 -> 12:22 PM) they'll make you liberal yah, i watched that follow up, i can' believe that ugly bastage got johanna You're thinking of the pasty white dufus named Wes. Danny, the Bostonian whom appeared to be wearing some sort of lip gloss on the followup show, dated Melinda. Yeah, I tuned in enough to catch certain cast details.

Not that I'm suggesting anything by my question, but how many security guards are watching the trophy? It's odd how it justs sits behind a simple tag in those pictures, yet at City Hall it was placed within glass.

Well, you see--our minor league pitching isn't very dependable. Obviously you don't remember 2003's 5th starter debacle. McCarthy will likely be a fixture in our rotation, then after him, who knows? Might be another 5 years until a servicable pitcher arises from the minors.

QUOTE(Jake @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 11:10 PM) He told me that Pippen thrived around a lot of talent that was still left. I dunno.. you tell me what to think here. Pippen guided the Jordan-less Bulls to the Eastern Conference Finals in 1994. f***, he was under serious consideration for MVP. If not for a phantom foul call in New York, it could have been possible the Bulls retained their crown. He'll always be remembered for being Jordans 'sidekick,' but those who know the game realize he was a quality player in his own regard.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 07:01 PM) I agree, it makes sense to me, I just think it's hard to blame message boards for discussing it if Disney's out there driving that exact point home through marketing. "Welcome to Narnia. I'm Mr. Tumnus" "Hey gimme back my sock you goat bastard!" Watch T.V.--you'd never guess from commercials there exists elements of Christianity in the movie. Their marketing strategy (of drawing Christians) is not conducted through the mainstream media. It could be Church leaders telling other Church leaders to tell their congregation to watch the film. Different from ABC broadcasting a trailer which draws comparison between Christ and the Lion. If that had been the case, I'd understand people being upset. While I don't guage a message board as a true representation of the public, it's still one area where you can expect honest opinions. And from IMDB, it appears the issue of Christianity in the film has many people upset. As if complaining about Christmas wasn't enough.

QUOTE(Credepopsup @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 05:22 PM) I rate the Czech Republic highly - if their best players stay clear of injury and suspension, they could go a long way in this tournament. From an English point of view, they were a team I wanted no part of in this draw (along with Holland). Relatives of mine are worried about the Czech Republic's grouping. I'm not familar with soccer--at all, but they've assured me the 2nd round, against Brazil, will likely be the death of any team advancing from Group E. Unfortunately for the US, my allegiance in mid June lies with the Czech's.

I was wrong to assume religious themes featured within Narnia were "subtle." Reading Ebert's review, the Lion's ressurrection alone convinces me otherwise. Regardless, unless the movie preaches salvation for those who follow the 10 commandments and regard Jesus Christ as their savior, it shouldn't be that excruciating for any practicing member of another religion (atheists included) to watch this film. Screening Narnia specifically to Christians and Church officials is market driven. Film executives know which audience is most likely to watch the movie.

QUOTE(DePloderer @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 03:36 PM) Did you not see any of the Lord of the Rings movies then? I'm amazed how America has to politicise EVERYTHING. It's just a farie tale, yes there are religious overtones in it, but so are there in many other "much loved" films. On the theme of death and resurection; E.T , Lord of the Rings (Gandalf the Grey / White) and even Star Wars used it to great effect. I'm taking my kids to see it on Christmas Eve. I intended for my post to satirize the issue. I've felt similar sentiments regarding people drawing politics into a fictionalized movie. Specifically, boards on IMDB highlight the odd obsession some have with media outlets heavily publicizing a movie featuring subtle, religious elements. None of which openly promote Christianity.

I AINT SEEING NO DAMN CHRISTIAN MOVIE!!!

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 9, 2005 -> 01:12 AM) You can say that again. Read this: http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...tesox-headlines Gives you an indication trading Marte and signing Myers was exactly the plan Williams had envisioned. Personally, I never would have made the trade unless I was absolutely sure Myers (my intended target) was accepting our contract offer.