Flash Tizzle

QUOTE (Cali @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 05:53 PM) He'll never get out of Charlotte, so who cares? It's an issue because it's no longer a 0% chance he will pitch for the White Sox. Even the slightest of odds is too much for me.

I'm really tired of bringing back old players. Really, to the point I'd rather have nothing. Isn't it just sort of pathetic that we let these players go assuming we dont need them, and/or they've lost their talent, yet a few years later are so desperate for help we bring them back? LOW RISK HIGH REWARD! or something.

Yeah......I probably should have mentioned that I made up that lineup. Beckham's playing. I was just hoping you guys would continue the outrage for another hour or so. mwhahahahah

Lineups posted: Podsednik Ramirez Thome Konerko Dye Nix Getz Castro Anderson No Beckham.

And now WGN is showing a recap of the last three games of 2008's season. Why must I be further tortured after today's lost by having to hear recaps with DJ?

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 03:50 PM) WAS IT OVER WHEN... ah forget it. No, go on. I haven't been annoyed by that phrase being thrown around here in quite awhile.

What a nice waste of an at bat. Nothing like it to deflate a team.

Chat doubleheader today.

QUOTE (The Critic @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:59 PM) A Thai newspaper printed a photo of Carradine in the hotel room - you can find it online easily if you want to. The photo does show him hanging nude, but both of his hands appear to be tied over his head. This would throw into question the auto-erotic asphyxiation scenario, and also the idea that this was a suicide. Curiouser and curiouser.... I hate myself for searching. Not only David Carradine, but this one website I was browsing through mentioned the death photo of a woman named Nikki Catsouras. I'm just warning you now if you're searching through Google, it's very unsettling. Even for me. But of course you will now that I warned you not to.... Far as Carradine goes, the photos only prove to me he wasn't alone. It's possible he had the assistance of some Thai hookers in AEA, and they merely strangled him to death. This revelation also implies that Thai authorities aren't telling the truth, especially the one quote I remember that suggested surveillance didn't pick up anyone else entering/leaving his room. I couldn't tell you one damn thing about Thailand or it's law enforcement capabilities, but from what I know of their country, I wouldn't put it past them to think, "we could try to send a manhunt out for two prostitutes, or just play it off as he killed himself.... even though the scene doesn't really prove that."

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:47 PM) If they reach for him, there is no doubt in my mind that they are making him a starter. I've just been assuming they'd convert him to a starter. He's perfect for our slot because of his limited experience in the starters role. We're not going to find great, high ceiling pitchers around us unless they have only one pitch, are coming off an injury, high bonus demands (probably wont be an issue with teams anymore), or limited experience in the starters role.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:44 PM) Fathom, is there an inside thing you have there? Or are you going more the Stanford connection? I think the Sox like Storen but taking him at 23 would be a mega reach and if they do that they better f***ing take a shot one on one of there other early picks and not cheap out on everything else. You mentioned Pollack earlier, doesn't he seem like a reach as well? Do you really see a small outfielder with limited power (the MLB.com video projected him as a potential 10HR a year player), albeit with an ability to make consistent, hard contact, as a first round selection? I don't see a lot of potential here. And I know, yes, he can always be converted to another position later, but this would be my 38th selection more than my 23rd.

QUOTE (TitoMB345 @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 12:25 PM) Wow, please send Beckham down. If he's not gonna play every day, send him back down. Since Fields has been looking more like a major leaguer and Guillen views Getz as a player requiring more ABs (speedy, grindy better matchup against righties), Beckham isn't going to find consistent plate appearances. For Beckham's sake he better find himself a hit quickly, before he goes back to the minors. Definitely don't want that on your mind. This means not embarrassing himself with any 0-20's, 0-30's. Need to get this monkey off quickly.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 8, 2009 -> 11:40 AM) Storen will be our first pick. I wouldn't mind selecting him. At our position, to find someone with potential they'll possess the talent, yet have unrefined tools which teams selecting lower cannot be bothered with. For a pitcher such as Storen, he has command issues out of the starters position. Our goal, even with several sandwich picks, should be selecting the best available talent. The pitcher or positional player with the most upside. Perhaps a few higher ceiling names drop (and above the Top 10 it's never a certainty), but if Storen is around when we select I'd be satisfied. I also like Eric Arnett. I look at him and it reminds me of what people were saying of Matt Garza.

It looks like we're not going to get this one in.

I remember a few years ago I'd enter game day threads and just say "it's look like we're not getting this one in," even if the weather was perfect out, and people would fall for it every time. I should begin doing that again. Especially since there are times I'm going to be right, such as maybe tonight.

Game is starting, and the chat room link is working. Get in there. http://mike.westernave.net/chat/chatroom.html

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 6, 2009 -> 01:52 PM) He was giving the number for the position equivalent. Jesus, I don't know how the hell I missed that. When I first came upon his post I thought it was Guillen trying something radical to change the lineup.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 6, 2009 -> 01:45 PM) Gotta love 4 lefty hitters against a pitcher who holds lefties to a .180 batting average and righties hit well over .300. If anyone is getting to Sowers it's Thome. He is 4-6 with 3 HRs off him.

QUOTE (MHizzle85 @ Jun 6, 2009 -> 01:25 PM) Pods7, Missile6, Thome dh, PK3, AJ2, Fields 5, Nix9, Getz4, BA8. Floyd pitching. Right players, wrong order....for every position. Here's the real one: Podsednik Ramirez Thome Konerko Pierzynski Fields Nix Getz Anderson.

I knew this s*** would happen with Beckham. Guillen can be so predictable. A part of me believes he would have been benched even if he went 6-6. And didn't Guillen say before Beckham's promotion he'd find him consistent ABs? Really, what is an off day going to do? He'll only think about it and be more frustrated that he'll have to wait another day to play.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 09:56 PM) That's almost fair. What are the standards? I wish I knew where the hell I posted my standards, because I explained it yesterday, but I just put 75 Abs as the set point for having a good fix on him (atleast this season) because it'll probably be somewhere around 23 games (give or take a few) if he is playing consistently. What's more important for me than his actual statistics is viewing how he approaches the game. I'm not going to dismiss a .150 average coupled with a lack of discipline, Wise-like slugging percentage, and poor defense, but if he's hitting .250 (not unreasonable) with a fair amount of unlucky outs going against him his presence should remain through the season. Also important (more for Guillen) is his attitude. He pulls a Getz and falls asleep or begins a Konerko suicide shrug when his 0-6 becomes 0-12, I can't imagine we'll be very patient with him.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 09:46 PM) Every bad post in here has been sarcastic, but it would be quite funny if after a couple months people started freaking out for real. Gotta love it. I'm giving him 75 Abs before freaking out for real. Stay tuned.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 09:41 PM) If Beckham went even 1-3 on 3 pitches, people wouldn't be complaining. I'm not saying it's a good practice or approach to have, but when you see that high 80's fastball of Pavano's coming right over the middle, it's not a terrible idea to take a good cut and hope to hit the ball hard somewhere. Ok, so when he first walks up to the plate, never having seen Pavano before, you believe it was a good idea for him to swing at Pavano's high 80's fastball before even gauging it ONCE? And after the second Ab, if I'm Beckham, I know I would have thought "hey, maybe I should work the count on Pavano next time. He has a low pitch count and I haven't even seen his secondary pitches yet." And you're right, I probably wouldn't have been as tough on him if he went 1-3 on three pitches. But he didn't, so we'll never know. All I know is, good players don't do that. Sure, Vlad Guerrero is known for his first pitch hacking, but he also has great plate coverage and power. The result of Beckhams first three ABs were Chris Getz like outs -- flyout to right, groundout to SS, and a flyout to shallow CF. I'm pretty sure he wasn't successful through the minors first pitch swinging.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 09:33 PM) Tizzle is right. It's sad we can't have a prospect do that for once. Well, to repeat myself again -- I'm not giving up on him after 6 Abs. He goes 3-3 tomorrow and suddenly he's batting .300. I just have to say I really dont like what I've seen from him this game. I hope this approach is never again used by Beckham unless it's with a pitcher he has destroyed, and that'll obviously have to be after a good number of plate appearances.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jun 5, 2009 -> 09:23 PM) Personally, I can't blame Beckham... he just doesn't look ready for this. This team has so many more problems than to have to blame stuff on this kid. All I wanted was a prospect to come through our system to immediately produce and sustain success for more than once a decade. Why is this impossible? He can still rebound, obviously having just 6 abs, but cmon -- the approach he had today was atrocious.