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Bruce Levine ‏@MLBBruceLevine 5m5 minutes ago Source tells me Catcher Geo Soto returning to White Sox on minor league deal . He has great shot once 40 man gets straight

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 5, 2017 -> 04:01 PM) Where was this reported? Peter Gammons

I think it's relevant in this thread, but the Rays turned down a Martes, Tucker, Paulino ++ for Archer. That is crazy.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 5, 2017 -> 02:54 PM) Also, heel Neville is awesome. He's legit scary looking. I completely agree.

Ric Bucher is saying that the Bulls are shopping Jimmy Butler.....

Rajai Davis to the A's for 1 year 6 million

https://twitter.com/ChuckGarfien Listening to Sox Podcast with Chuck Garfein, Ryan Mcguffey, and Chris Kamka. Chuck said he KNOWS that the Astros, Pirates, and Braves have made offers for Q.

Drew Storen to the Reds on a 1 year 3 million deal with incentives.

Phillies exploring the addition of Jose Bautista according to Rosenthal who is back from vacation.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 02:23 PM) What's crazy is in only 51 starts over the last two years Rodon has amassed the 17th most WAR in the AL for all starting pitchers. Plenty of people ahead of him have made over 60 starts in that time. Even when the guy is disappointing, or better yet, leaving more to be desired, he's a very effective pitcher. He's a #2-#3 right now. That stat is crazy. Never would of guessed that to be honest.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 02:14 PM) It's from Josh Jones @jrocke217 Just saw that. I think there was an article in Spanish saying that Sox are interested.

How in the world does Rodon have any where close to the value that Quintana has? The Yankees would never do that BlackSox. Just no.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 11:55 AM) http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/mlb-hot-...n-todd-frazier/ Ah ok. Very well could be. He'd make a great deadline deal like Melky would for a contender.

Phil Rogers ‏@philgrogers 28m28 minutes ago Idle thought: Could @whitesox land switch-hitting prodigy Josh Bell & Tyler Glasnow from Pirates in deal for Quintana & Todd Frazier? Phil Rogers ‏@philgrogers 26m26 minutes ago @whitesox want Austin Meadows in Jose Quintana deal but Josh Bell also fits the need for young hitters w/big upside.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 11:23 AM) The rumor was just out the end of last week of what the Sox were looking for, and it wasn't much. The fact that he is still here means they aren't even getting that much in the way of offers. What rumor?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 11:16 AM) The reality of what is being offered doesn't support that. How do you know what is being offered? You saw what the Nationals offered for Cutch, not saying we can get that deal, but I think we can get a couple players in the next tier of a Robles.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 11:12 AM) Fraizer had a higher WAR than Trumbo last season. And higher than Cutch. I find it hard to believe no one would eventually give up something decent for a 40 HR good clubhouse guy. Completely agree. Dude had a low average, but brings big power and reliable defense at a key position. We can get something good for Todd Frazier.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) I would have to respectfully disagree. I don't see how it can even be remotely realistic for the Sox or anyone to think they can compete with the current roster that, with Sale and Eaton in tow, were unable to win more than 78 games in the past four years, and that was with stop gap measures in place. How can they now be expected to even get close to even 78 wins, never mind compete, without their best pitcher and position player, and with yet another set of additions of the stop gap variety. It doesn't compute. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) I think it some point they take last bids on Q, and trade him for the best offer. They have gone really far down the trade path with him, especially in public, for him to come back now. Even if they go into the season with a lot of those players, I don't see them adding to them in any significant way. I fully expect Abreu and Lawrie to be on the opening day roster. Q I think there is about 10% chance. Frazier is not much higher, though I see a disappointing return to move him. Melky I think will be on the roster, as no one will really want him. Call it a 75% chance at return. I agree with both of you that there is 0 chance the Sox go and try and compete. Way too much smoke regarding a Quintana trade. He's the Sox best trade chip, have to hit on this deal, so there is incentive to be patient in the off season, but like ss2k said, they'll take final offers and deal him before the season without running the risk during the season. Robertson and Frazier I see both being moved, but maybe closer to ST or in ST as injuries or players don't perform. Melky is 100% on the roster come opening day imo, but he'll be a great deadline guy for playoff teams.

Mahomes from Texas Tech declares. Would love him on the Bears.

QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jan 2, 2017 -> 10:57 PM) From what I've read he had really bad influences around him, and made some bad decisions (drugs and such, nothing super bad though). Illinois pulled away though, great talent but a risk they can't take after the off court incidents of last year plus they got good players in the 1/2 positions anyways. Agreed. No spot for him really. Frazier, Williams, Lucas all can play the 1. I think Frazier can be the steal of the class.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jan 2, 2017 -> 08:00 PM) So what is everyone's preferred REALISTIC trade offer? I'm going to go with Yankees and Frazier, Kaprielian, Andujuar, + lotto ticket A baller... For just Q alone. Braves: Albies, Maitian, Soroka, Toussaint. Braves probably say no, but I think it's possible because these guys are all 3-5 years away with the exception to Albies. Rockies: Rodgers, Pint, Freeland and Nunez Astros: Martes, Tucker, Davis, and Stubbs Dodgers: Bellinger, Verdugo, Lux, and Heredia Yankees: Torres, Rutherford, and Kaprielian Pirates: Glasnow, Newman, Keller, and Diaz Rangers: Mazara, Gallo, Profar, and Speas

From the A's I'd ask for: 2B/SS Franklin Barreto, LHP A.J Puk, RHP Logan Shore, and OF Lazarito

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 2, 2017 -> 11:24 AM) I know Illinois has an offer out to Verge, the PG from Thornton. My HS just played them in the Big Dipper title game and wow what a badass. He is a bit showy, but legit. He has one of those non-committal offers I believe. Smith and Epperson are the top targets to fill out the class for the Illini.

Hopefully we hear a new rumor about Quintana tomorrow or the next couple days. I know it's been the holidays, but the baseball hot stove has been extremely slow the last couple weeks and really the whole off season. To my knowledge, only the Sox have made the trades so far this off season. Just a weird off season with the CBA, lack of movement, slow free agency signings, and barely any trades.

Great win for Illinois and they offer Mark Smith while he was in attendance. Rumors on the boards are that he loves Illinois and the incoming class and that he could commit soon....