ChiSox59

Diaz is better and younger. That’s why I projected he’d get 63% of what Diaz got. But the fact that there are no premium relievers on that FA market AND Liam’s contract is extremely reasonable, he should have a good bit of value. I wouldn’t trade him myself, but the value should be there.

Agreed now is not the right time to sell TA for many of the reasons stated. He would still return FAR more than a back end top 100 prospect + some “minor throw in piece”. That’s crazy talk.

It’s not tho. Some scrub reliever just got 2/$14M from LA. Diaz, the closest comp to Liam, got 5/$102. Liam would smash 2/$29M if he was a FA. At least 4/$65M range. He should have plenty of surplus value.

Classic tho.

It would. But LAD really needs Lux atm.

I would dislike that so, so much.

Well, there are no elite closers available and one Carlos Esteves just got $14M guaranteed across 2 years, so there very well may be a long line of suitors for Liam.

Bleh. Really don’t like the idea but if the return is good enough I guess….very much one step backwards, to hopefully take one step forward (use the $ towards a real OF) type move.

2/$13.5M for a pretty meh reliever. Arms are not cheap.

It makes absolutely no sense. I think he’s mad people are “blocking” his dream of acquiring James Outman.

What’s the chances that each one of them is @Orlandoand @adammaloney just echo chambering themselves? I’ll go with 99%.

They need at least two OFs. Colas is 1.

If the Sox salary dump Yoan, I think I would lose all faith in the direction of the Sox. From a player profile standpoint, Sox need more guys like Moncada, not less.

He’s a pretty bad 2B.

I think Brantley would be a perfectly acceptable 2nd move, like you suggested. If you bring in Conforto + Brantley or Gallo + Brantley, it makes much more sense because if/when Brantley gets hurt, now you have Colas to fill the gap. If Brantley is the primary addition, he's like option #6 or #7 for me. I also would be shocked if the Sox signed two FA OF to deals > $10M AAV.

Yes. I hate Tony with a passion. He was quite literally as bad as possible. I am convinced some middle school baseball coach with a decent knowledge of the roster could have done a better job managing the team. Was not meant as defending Tony in the slightest.

He has already said he wants to just release Grandal. Just dumping Grandal makes little sense unless you can offload more than a few million of his deal on someone else. If you're paying Grandal $18.25 (or close) regardless, you may as well bring him into ST and see if he can be productive and healthy as a part time player. While you can never put too much stock in offseason puff pieces, it does sound like his knees are doing better and he's working hard on getting healthy.

Yeah, I think it is a mix of a health and Tony telling the guys not to over-do it. I think Luis may have taken that directive the wrong way defensively. I have a feeling that will change in 2023. I will say, Robert did take a bit step back defensively in 21 post-injury versus 20 IMO. I will admit that is mostly just from the "eye test", but he was far less aggressive following the hip injury in 21. So he put up those value numbers in 21 while not playing anywhere near as good of defense as he did in 20. Things fell off again in 22. We know he has the ability to be a plus defender in CF. We definitely need to see that again as opposed to whatever TF saw in 2022.

No argument from me on that.

I think you absolutely have to go for it 2023. You can reassess after 2023. The positive is that, while not trying to be morbid, if the Sox were to strip it down after 23 or 24, and got thru a multiple year rebuild, by the time they're trying to contend again there is better than a decent chance JR is no longer running the White Sox.

There is no scenario I would trade Luis Robert right now. If he goes out and plays 145 games at the pace he was on in 2021, and he's a 7 fWAR player. Perhaps the most valuable player in the game at that point. He's controlled for 5 more seasons. There is no rush to move him coming off whatever that 2nd half of 2022 was.

Great listen. Thanks for sharing!

Not really, though.

Joe Kelly definitely didn’t have a good season but the arm is there and k I wouldn’t be surprised in the least if he was a solid backend member of the pen in 23. Overpaid? Ya, sure. But he definitely became one of the TLR scapegoats for the fan base.

I think $168M is the correct figure. That counts Pollock and Harrison’s buyout for 22, and Clevingers for 23. But definitely isn’t a consensus on how exactly to account the buyouts. I think just assuming $170ish is safe.