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That is not usually how mutual options work. Would be fantastic if Hahn was able to convince Clevengers representation To do that though.

They can at least use it as a means to convince Jerry to spend more haha.

Varsho would be a fun addition to this team. He wouldn’t come cheap tho.

https://www.soxtalk.com/forums/topic/113983-rule-5-draft-preview/

A downgrade, and more expensive. Makes no sense unless some other team really, really wants Gio at 1/$10.5M.

Not to mentioned with an org that has literally no upper minors SP depth. Trading Lucas continues to make absolutely no sense.

If Sox trade AV, let Abreu walk and then turn around and give Josh Bell 3/$48M. Oh my.

Then what are you doing about the gaping hole in the rotation? I’ll hang up a listen.

While I continue to think this rumor is absolute BS, Kepler would be better all around option than any LH FA OF not named Nimmo. Conforto is close, but I’ll give Kepler the slight nod for the Sox as he’s a worlds better defender. So while I highly doubt this deal has any traction and that MN would hand Kepler over to the Sox, he does continue to make a ton of sense.

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There is very little chance this team is under .500 come July tho. Just Parkman managing expectations in his own head.

Yeah, I’d rather just spend Jerry’s money. Montgomery and Colas should be off limits. Colas is our own internal solution to a decade+ long problem and Montgomery is the exact type of profile we need more of. But you won’t be able to get Reynolds without at least one of those two, and for that reason, I’m out.

$1.2M per start in the very unlikely event he makes 32 starts in a season.

No. The same reason Phil gives to trade him is the same reason you shouldn’t.

I think Sheets and Burger are pretty valuable depth pieces. Both should spent the majority of the year in AAA, and their options are very valuable to the Sox. When you have a roster littered with dudes that get hurt a lot, having guys like Sheets and Burger around is nice. That being said, if you can turn one of them - I am more inclined to move Burger - into a controllable back end SP with options, I think you have to do it. But I would not be looking to just trade either of them for whatever you can get. I promise you both will be needed at times in 2023.

Salvy's contract is really gross. No thanks.

When you act like you have all the answers, but never actually share anything of substance, and 95% of your posts are just stupid condescending one liners, that is what you get. I've yet to see you provide any sort of accurate insight, yet you continue to act like you have some in to the Sox FO. I think you're full of s%*#. It's one thing to be someone like Pal that doesn't really say much other than little vague nuggets, but he doesn't act like a total tool. Then there is you.

Things are never worse than you thought they were going to be. Stop kidding yourself.

Gleyber is just more of what we have though. Right handed hitting below average defender that isn't great against RHP. I'd be fine with Gleyber if they also spent $ to fix the OF, but in a vaccum, I don't like him as a target at all. We are also in no position to be trading away Sean Burke who is the closest thing we have to SP depth after Martin.

I just don’t think the Sox really have many trade candidates on the MLB roster. Most of the guys are either at their lowest value after a poor or injury plagued season (Moncada, Eloy, Robert, Giolito), are major contributors to the MLB club (TA, Hendriks, Cease), or just have no value (Grandal, Kelly, Leury). Feels more like a Sox pushing their beat non-Montgomery and Colas minor league chips into the pot and trying to get the best LH OF bat they can find for it kinda off-season.

The fact that Clevinger has been a meaningfully better pitcher in his career than Boyd. Clevinger made 22 starts last year, Boyd 0. Expecting Boyd to provide 125+ innings in 23 after pitching 13 in 2022 is nuts.

Well thought out plan. I dig it. I too would prefer a different name in LF, but switch that to Conforto and I like it alot.

THis is not directed at you SS2k, but people comping the Clevinger and Boyd deals in terms of "value" are nuts. Boyd and Clevinger are exact same age. Boyd's career: 4.90 ERA, 4.66 FIP, 9.3 fWAR (797 IP)...only pitched 13 innigns in 2022, and zero starts. Has made only 27 starts since 2019. Clevinger career: 3.39 ERA, 4.0 FIP, 12.1 fWAR (656 IP)...pitched 113 innings in 2022 of with 4.33 ERA coming of 2nd TJS. Clevinger at $12M >>>>> Boyd at $10M

$10M for Boyd!?! Holy moly. Know he was good in SSS last year, but that’s crazy $.

Same people that are passionate about the 6 weeks we got from Elvis Andrus.