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And I am telling you that is that my understanding is that the player is not REQUIRED to IMMEDIATELY go on waivers when they are DFA'd. The club has a week to decide what to do (trade/place on waivers/release). The club is not required to ever put the player on waivers if they don't want to, they can just release him. So instead of looking to find a trade partner for Rondon (who probably would have garnered no interest via trade) during that week, the Sox simply elected to put him straight on waivers in hopes he would clear, at which point (if he did clear) they would outright him to AAA and keep him in the org. I don't think this is that complicated. Please show me the language if I am wrong, but I don't believe a player is instantly placed on waivers when they are DFA'd. The team literally has to place them on waivers, and they have a week to decide. Again - semantics - but pretty sure my understanding of the process is correct.

I sincerely apologize for using the wording "sneak".

And Abreu has 2 months of control and gets more in return that Mazara? Lol, your logic makes no sense.

This is purely semantics and probably not worth debating, but pretty sure a team has a week when the player is in DFA limbo before the team actually has to make a waiver/release decision. The team can look to trade the player in that period, or elect to just put them on waivers or release if they want. 

Right..................which is what I was getting when I said "looks like Sox tried to sneak him through waivers to no avail."

I don't disagree with what you're saying or think the Sox shouldn't start with something similar to what you're proposed deals are. Just don't think the return for any of those three players will be as strong as the deals you proposed, if Colome and Abreu are moved. As I said, if those deals were on the table, they'd be agreed to already. The same logic could be said for Mazara. Why are the Sox getting such good returns for Abreu and Colome (relatively), and the Rangers get trash for their 24 year old Mazara? Sorta backwards logic.

Yah, I took the outright out immediately after I posted. It should have said release, not outright. The player needs to clear waivers before you can outright. But the player does not need to be placed on waivers immediately, which they clearly did with Rondon. The team has a week to try to trade a DFA'd player before they either place a place on waivers or release. They clearly tried to just sneak him through waivers right away. That is all I was getting at.

Your packages are wildly optimistic. Sorry dude. The Rangers will just hold onto the Mazara if the best they can do is Fulmer and Hansen, and surely one of the other 28 teams would beat that offer. Medina by himself for Colome is perhaps possible if Philly is desperate, but adding is Haseley or Moniak makes it very unrealistic.

Not really. I am aware he was out of options. When someone is DFA'd the org has 7 days to try to trade the player or place them on waivers. He was DFA'd just 2 days ago, so they clearly just put him straight on waivers.

Meh, I'd love to be wrong, but the Sox are not acquiring 2 of the Phillies top 4 prospects for Colome. They aren't getting a top 100 prospect in Medina PLUS the Phillies 23 year old 2017 1st rounder that is already in the big leagues. That trade would be an enormous win. Mazara for Fulmer and Hansen would be a terrible deal for the Rangers and an enormous win for the Sox. No way Texas is trading Mazara for that pile of trash. The Abreu deal seems somewhat realistic, but the Rays have a serious 40 man issue, so if they're trading 2 prospects for Abreu, they're going to be guys on the 40 man. Only Banda fits that category, and he's on the 60 day IL, so doesn't really solve their problem. As I said, these deals would be major home runs for the Sox. IF these deals were on the table, they'd be agreed to already.

Me too. I was interested in seeing them try to work him in the OF and turn him into a super sub. He did play 12 innings the OF this year, but clearly the Sox didn't trust him there, and the bat was putrid this season. Wouldn't have minded retaining him down in Charlotte, but not really that surprised to see him claimed. Literally only made it through one team (the Tigers) before he was claimed.

Looks like Sox tried to sneak him through waivers to no avail.

Mhmmm. Brought this up weeks ago, but give them Colome, Bummer and Leury. Shit throw in a prospect in the 10-15 range. Its not going to happen, but it actually makes some sense seeing as though Boston needs bullpen help bad.

Yah, all three of those deals would be home runs for the Sox.

I think we can rest assured that if Colome is traded, the return will be worthwhile. Otherwise he just won't be traded. Its that simple.

I read it more like that is what the Mets were asking for, not that the Red Sox were entertaining it.

Anyone able to watch the Charlotte game last night able to comment on how Mercedes looked at 3B? No errors I see!

YAWN!!! Still think Castillo, Jay, Nova and Marshall all have to be pretty good candidates to be moved in the next 30 hours. Perhaps Colome if someone decides to pay up. Doubt Bummer goes anywhere. Not much to move, but this is shaping up like another boring deadline around baseball. Thought the lack of a waiver deadline this year would create a flurry of moves the last week or so, but it really hasn't come to fruition.

Looks like he's playing in the independent league now. Ouch.

Lol, dude this is a message board. I’m not in charge and you’re free to post. I am not telling you to leave. I am just commenting that your constant negativity gets tiresome. Obviously the Sox have sucked for sometime and it gets old for all of us. But I don’t think it’s too much to ask to attempt to understand that all teams need depth and every spot on the 40 man is not going to be filled with an all star. Giving away assets for nothing is not a wise way to do business.

Per Sox.

Mhmmmmmmmm. Id be so damn fired up if Sox got Nimmo. Just such a good fit, and may have been the first to suggest it.

If you were in charge, every single guy would be cut before he figured it out. You call for DFAing or cutting players with options legitimately on a daily basis. You lack fundamental knowledge of simple roster management and refuse to learn. I know you’re a fan of the Sox and view things in a more old school lens. That’s all fine and dandy, and I am sure we would get along great over a beer and Sox game. But, IMO, you routinely bring down the quality of this board with your unwillingness to adapt to the way the game is played today, and more importantly, inability to comprehend how a roster is managed.

Mercedes at 3B tonight I’d Charlottes twitter feed doesn’t have a typo.

I guess they didn’t cover all of Vargas $. Mets saving about $2M, so that makes a little more sense.