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Minaya and Volstad are not even close to being on the same hemisphere. Prior to his last outting, Minaya had actually been quite good since he was recalled. He's also 5 years younger than Volstad.

Won't get an arguement from me there. I am all for trying out every fringey guy the Sox have. Just prefer to keep the real prospects away from this dumpster fire and start fresh next season.

Honestly, who cares what the team looks like the rest of the season? Just keep running Engel out there. These games are worthless and losses are more important than wins. Fine giving Cordell a look, and I'd rather see Leury start in CF than Engel. But really, who cares? This season is toast, and the Sox should be trying to get in contention for the #1 pick. I've said it many time, and I'll say it many more. Bringing up Eloy to play in this shitshow is STUPID STUPID STUPID, and I don't get why so many fans continue to call for him.

They won't. Wanna bet?

I think they want to keep Adams in the rotation for now. But point remains. Volstad outstayed his welcome by a couple months.

Pretty sure Danish was already exposed once when Sox removed him from the 40 man. Tyler seems like a good kid, and I wish him well. Hope he does well and sticks this time. I think he could be an effective multi-inning reliever.

I wouldn't be upset or anything, but there are several relievers in AAA I'd call up before him (Viera and Danish (both of whom are now here), Bummer, and Fulmer) . Hamilton was in A+ a year ago. He's had 11 appearances in AAA. It's not insane to let him finish the year in AAA with the expectation that he'll in the pen in Chicago to start next season, or one of the first few up from AAA.

Me gusta these moves. Save Hamilton for next season.

Below is about the lowest of packages I would accept from the teams that make sense for Rodon. I'd start higher, but end here. Anything less, pound sand. Padres - Meijia, Morejon, Naylor and Esteury Ruiz Yanks - Florial, Sheffield and a couple interesting low level lottery tickets. Braves - Riley, Pache, Fried and lottery ticket. Phillies - I don't really think the Phillies match up well. I'd take Sanchez +++, but I don't particularly like the fit for moving a piece like Rodon.

I am not trading Carlos Rodon for anything short of a significant overpay, and I don't see that happening. The Padres are interesting, but I don't want Mejia as only significant piece. Dude isn't going to be a catcher, and when he's not a catcher, he's not nearly as exciting.

Some people are here are going to be really disappointed in what Soria returns. I have low expectations, but hope to be surprised. I'd be shocked if the Sox added a top 15 prospect to their farm before the end of this season.

Think Oh has a $2M 2019 option, which is fairly valuable.

Agreed. Fry is maybe a guy that can be used as a deal sweetener, but I don’t see any team giving up any significant prospect for a 1 for 1 type deal.

Abreu must have kicked Baltas dog.

By design. Brighter days ahead. Patience.

Me thinks not.

Rodon isn't getting traded guys.

Good luck, Al!

Eloy and Kopech will have all of 2019 (minus 2-3 weeks) to get their feet wet at the big league level. The Sox aren't competing for anything next season other than maybe trying to be a .500ish team. The whole "lets get them up here for fan excitement and developmental reasons" is silly, IMO. Just do this thing the right way from the long term betterment of the organization.

+1.

Its not just financial reasons. It building a baseball team for sustained success reasons. 2018 is toast. The Sox actually project to be good in 2025. The Sox should rather have those guys on the team in their prime in 2025 than for a handful of games in lost season in 2018 when they should be tanking to get best pick possible.

Running your business like the future doesn't matter is how you end up not in business (or without your job). The Sox can afford to be patient. In fact, they have incentive to continue to be bad this season. I would be shocked if we see either of these guys this season, and frankly, I would lose some confidence in the process.

Stephens is a totally different coversation than Eloy and Kopech. Sure, get him up as soon as Shields is gone, or let him replace Covey after another shitty start. Absolute best case scenario, you're getting a mid rotation starter out of Stephens. He doesn't have elite, one of best pitchers in baseball type stuff like Kopech does, and therefore, the calculus and decision making is and should be different.

The Sox are never going to the be type of team that will be able to sign guys like Eloy and Kopech to long term deals in FA if they reach their ceilings. The Sox need teams built at least partially by young, cheap and elite talent. That is exactly what they could get with these two. They aren't going to sacrifice that for 30 games in a lost season. If there guys were coming up in 2018, they would be up here already (beyond injury for Eloy and general ineffectiveness for Kopech). And the Sox may have money to burn right now, but they're not going to be in the same position in 2024/2025 when these guys could be FAs, and if they do, something went horribly wrong.

Yes, it really is. 1 damn year makes an enormous difference and will likely be worth upwards of $30M plus if these guys turn out to be the players they project to be. No, the Sox shouldn't do it with all their prospects, but they should do it with the marquee ones, and calling either Kopech or Eloy up this year would be straight idiotic. Thankfully, I am nearly positive the Sox agree. You don't do this type of stuff to excite fans. Again, it would be REALLY FU**ING stupid.