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Two people of note who were at the game that night were future Sox pitcher Donn Pall and future actor Michael Clarke Duncan. DP: "I was. I had seats in the lower deck, third base side, about halfway up. As I walked around the park that night it was packed, but I thought I was at a Grateful Dead concert instead of a ball game. I literally saw a cloud of smoke hanging over the field. It’s funny, I remember wondering if the record that I took with me to get in was going to be accepted as a disco record. I thought that the ticket takers wouldn’t let me get in because it wasn’t disco! (laughing) Remember you had to bring a disco record with you and if you did, you could get in for .98 cents." "Between games after they blew up the records, people started running on the field. They weren’t just trying to run the bases; they were ripping up the grass, trying to tear out the bases. I remember seeing some guy climbing down the foul pole! I saw a lot of people with gashes on their heads because people were throwing records around like Frisbees. It reminded me of a concert where for a while a baseball game broke out. When that second game was declared a forfeit, I was pissed off! The Sox were pretty bad and they couldn’t afford forfeiting a game! I was probably the only person who left the park that night upset over that loss

It was right after Memorial Day after Cleveland beat up the Sox in a series.

Best story on Cusack I heard from Brooks. He said right before the World series Cusack's secretary called and said he wanted tickets. When told the Sox would see if any were available, Cusack got on the line and started b****ing "demanding" them. Sox got him some and I was told the guy was a real obnoxious prick. basically the Sox said, "never again" if he wants tickets he can purchase them like anybody else. I don't remember if JR said that last part or not.

Something good may finally be coming out of the college basketball scandal. Me thinks Louisville (which is already on probation), Kansas, Arizona and LSU have a reason to be very nervous now... https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/at-least-six-college-basketball-programs-will-be-notified-of-major-ncaa-violations-by-this-summer/

Because they EXPECT their team to win and when they don't, especially if they don't bother to show up or play as fundamentally sound as a bad Little League team they are going to vent. Just my opinion on that. I mean these are professionals...they are paid to win. That's what they should be doing. So when they do it's like, "OK they won...great...that's what they should be doing..." Again just a guess here.

Maybe because that is what fans expect their team to do? Actually win games...

It's not that Sox fans "hate" winning as the original poster said, it's just that they aren't used to it because they haven't really seen it since 2012. And while improved let's not forget they are still a below .500 team at this point with seemingly new injuries every day.

Well to be fair the fans haven't seen much of it for the last 6+ seasons and soon to be 10th in the last 13 years.

Didn't Cashner say that he liked Baltimore so much if he was traded he'd consider retiring? (Guess he likes losing too...)

Uh-Oh...Kenny may not like that one very much (sticking their noses in White Sox business...) LOL ?

Hahn has publicly hinted recently that he expects Jose' to be with the organization for a long time. I personally think they will extend him. Not saying that's good or bad, that's the world of the White Sox. Oh and getting J.D. Martinez to sign here is a fantasy.

And 10th in the last 13 years.

Given the pitching match up I honestly didn't expect a win tonight. Somehow they did and hats off to them. Starting pitching was trash again and I'm glad Ricky pulled him before he gave away the lead. Bummer also showed he was finally human...bears watching now more closely. Man when Eloy hits em' they go a lllllooooonnnnnggggg way don't they? Sox went 9-5 in this 14 game stretch against mediocre / bad teams...and that's not bad especially with half the pitching staff unable to do a damn thing because of "sore shoulders" et al. Now the next 15 games are against pretty good clubs, we'll see what happens. I'd be happy if they could go 5-10 myself given the state of the pitching staff.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2019/6/10/18660540/white-sox-gm-might-have-tough-decisions-to-make-at-trade-deadline ‘‘Perhaps a tricky one here over the next few weeks. We are going to have guys who other teams want. From our standpoint, it’s always going to be about putting us in the best long-term position. We haven’t quite pivoted to that strictly win-now, short-term focus.’’ -- Rick Hahn

There you go. Many thanks.

Again I hope you are right. But I've seen the Sox do some really, really stupid things as a fan for 58 seasons now. I just don't think the odds are 100% guaranteed they let him go. There is a small chance for whatever dumb reason they hang on to him.

I think he was on the IL at some point last year or two. Don't remember for sure.

It was more like the first 35 games as I recall which was (and still is) a MLB record breaking it set originally by the Brooklyn Dodgers.

Well kicking the Sox ass isn't necessarily a difficult thing to do is it?

Horrific bullpen work tonight. Have lost three straight to a Washington team that is falling apart. And again they let a bad pitcher (SOMEBODY has been beating the crap out of him this season...) do whatever he wants to them. Embarrassing.

I hope you are right but we'll see.

Yet every single one of those bench guys could play and did make significant contributions at various times on the field winning games for the Sox.

I suggest the Sox save everyone time and energy and place the entire pitching staff on the IL with "sore shoulders." Again you wonder what these guys are doing in the off season conditioning wise or possibly what they aren't doing. Fry, Burr and Hamilton are getting as bad as the days of Putnam and Petricka.

Yoan is on pace for about 35 doubles, 35 home runs and 98 RBI's.

I agree and that's what I'm advocating. Not singling out an individual, not trying to place "blame." Just doing a comprehensive review of everything and everyone with the best outside specialists in their respective fields. The Sox have actually done this before, in 1983 when the team started slowly ownership brought in Bobby Winkles to evaluate everything including Tony LaRussa. Eddie Einhorn talked about this in the WFLD-TV special "Next Year Is Hear" which aired in September 1983 (I have it in my library). Einhorn said if Winkles said, 'you have to let Tony go' it would have been done. Instead Winkles said, "Boys, don't worry about it, its gonna turn around...' Einhorn said Winkles was in Chicago for a week, they got his recommendations and sent him on his way.