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The only ones I'd keep would be Taylor, Vasil and maybe, MAYBE Leasure. Everyone else? Don't let the door hit you in the ass on your way out of the stadium and that also includes a bunch of guys on the 40 man roster overall.

Greg, I wouldn't bet your house or your life on them winning 76-77 games next year, just not happening.

JR is not going to allow any spending with an unsettled labor situation to start with over and above his distaste for spending in general.

Greg: Let’s assume for discussion purposes that EVERY hitter currently on the big league roster avoids getting hurt next seasons, avoids the “Sophomore Jinx”, avoids completely falling off the table like so many Sox players have done the past decade. Let’s assume they avoid all of those scenarios. OK… The team defense is still atrocious, their grasp of baseball fundamentals is comical and those lose games. Now let’s look at the pitching. They need AT LEAST two solid starters and three-quarters of this wretched bullpen needs to be shitcanned and replaced. Included in the replacements have to be at least one solid set up man and then you have to get a very good closer. I have no idea what the free agent list for next year will be or if any of those players would even consider this franchise but even if they did, JR is still running the show. And again you have the specter of a labor impasse staring you right in the face in 2027 which could impact at least some or most of that year and impact revenue. We know how much JR values the bottom line. Enough said. Things potentially change when Ishbia takes over. Until then? Hope is all that you’ve got (and hope is no way to run a successful franchise.)

Let me have what you're drinking...I want to get loaded too! 😆 Not...even...close. And with the labor situation coming up JR won't allow Getz to do anything dramatic to improve the talent.

It actually was "The Kids Can Play..." marketing slogan.

And here it is, just a wonderful reflection of a good man's life:

The Torborg documentary comes out Thursday, I'll post the You Tube link to it if no one else does so after the Dallas-Philadelphia football game.

7th time this year the Sox trailed in the 7th inning or later and wound up winning the game.

Speaking of Civale...three innings, one hit allowed Monday.

6th time this year the Sox have trailed in the 7th inning or later and came back to win it.

Well that is certainly going to be the case under JR for his remaining years. When Ishbia takes over that could change.

I think there are still a few people who did not sell their shares.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2025/09/01/white-sox-2025-loss-cause-if-100-is-inevitable-at-least-try-to-stay-under-106

I think that's significant but a lot can change between now and the winter especially when you are dealing with JR.

Well they are getting more out of Vaughn than the Sox did with Civale. He helped spur that long win streak when a bunch of their guys were on the IL so yes I agree you AND the Brewers are going to make the playoffs. No question as it turned out they got the best end of the trade. All the Sox got was another stiff who ate some innings. And I'm not saying they should have kept Vaughn, he needed to get out of this insane asylum as soon as possible to try to get his career going again.

There's no "may" about it.

My God...a win.

That's JR's way. Cubs also claimed Santana from the Guardians if I heard right.

All of them have gone through "rebuilding," in some cases multiple times. The successes they have had in large part have been based on a competent front office. When was the last time the Sox could say they had a competent front office/organization?

He is on defense, then again he fits right in with the rest of this bunch as far as fielding is concerned.

Once again this false narrative comes to the forefront. I don't know of ANY Sox fan...NONE who "don't mind" losing, tanking, rebuilding. But when you have an owner who refuses to compete, who refuses to spend money, who refuses to take any risks, who thinks players are overpaid and still yearns for a salary cap...rebuilding, tanking is basically the ONLY WAY to maybe get out of the cesspool he created. Will it work? It hasn't so far that's for damn sure but odds of a 1,000-1 are still better than zero because JR is simply not trying to win anymore. Period...full stop...end of story.

Look at the good side, these buffoons didn't allow the Yankees to score in double figures tonight! WOO HOO! They'll make it a four game sweep Sunday.

Fair point although Schultz had a knee issue and Smith had some arm issues.