Jose Abreu

I'm in the whole "too much pitching" camp now. I trusted Hahn to even it out with this trade but I guess he's trying to bring about the same problem we've had in the past few years. "You can always trade the pitching for hitters!" That's what we should be doing right now.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 05:07 PM) The Sox have 3 other prominent players to trade and you don't hear a thing about them. I have been surprised by the lack of Frazier rumors.

QUOTE (bmags @ Dec 21, 2016 -> 03:23 PM) Wow I'm shocked you view Meadows that poorly. For me it's Bregman/Meadows/Torres/Bellinger/Rodgers in that order. Why so down on Rodgers?

I think I'm alone on this, but outside of Frazier/Torres/guys they acquired via trade, I'm really not big on the NYY prospects.

Happy Christmas Eve to all!

QUOTE (Dizzy Sox @ Dec 17, 2016 -> 11:14 AM) On the right team Shuck could have filled a nice role as a 5th of/defensive replacement/lefty bat off the bench/speedy pinch runner. The fact that he received almost a full season worth of PAs over his tenure with the Sox tells you all you need to know about the state of the team during that period. Yeah, that their CF was injured.

Scott MerkinVerified account ‏@scottmerkin White Sox agree to terms on a one-year, $10.825-million contract with first baseman Jose Abreu, avoiding arbitration

Not bad if we're trying to tank for Beer.

QUOTE (Black_Jack29 @ Dec 12, 2016 -> 05:27 PM) If they're not too mad at Hahn for him using them as negotiating leverage in the Sale deal, a deal for Robertson could definitely happen this month, rather than July. Doubt they're too mad, given that they traded with us 26 hours afterwards

Chuck GarfienVerified account ‏@ChuckGarfien Just like with Sale, White Sox have great leverage with Quintana. Teams trying to win want/need pitching. Quintana is best prize left.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Dec 10, 2016 -> 10:30 PM) Some tidbits for anyone interested: - Rick said this is a long process, and that everyone in the organization are aware this is at the beginning. - They are trying to figure out what is the next step is in the process. - Acknowledged that the team tried to plug holes last few years, but unfortunate it didn't work. - These trades put the Sox in a more secure spot than prior offseasons. - These trades are not about trying to patch holes. - They are looking for a high volume of impact guys, and said it is a necessity for long term success. - The idea of a rebuild had been talked about with KW and JR in 2007, 2010, 2013, 2014, & 2015 offseasons but decided now was the opportune time to actually go through with it. - He's eager to get things right and ready to do more moves, however pace needs to be dictated by the market. - Giolito struggled in debut, but said it is not shocking because he's young. Said the Sox, unlike the Nats, have luxury to be patient with his development and allow him to go to Triple-A. - They asked is Hahn felt guilty in Eaton trade and fleecing the Sox did to the Nationals, hahaha! Hahn was professional and sidestepped question mentioning the only guilt was towards Eaton himself because of the circumstances he was being moved. Said he talked to Adam and said it was not the intention to signing him to a long-term deal only to move him. - On if ever dealing with Cubs, Hahn said it is foolish to take option off the table, especially when the team is in another league. - On trading Q, it depends on what the market value is for him. - He realizes that all 7 prospects received will not all hit their ceilings, looking to build a core which is why it is important to keep adding. - Hahn said it's nice to see the Sox logo next to the top prospect rankings. - Again said his wish is to keep rolling and do "another one" today, but cannot force this. - Moving guys could go into the season and next offseason. Again, depends on what the market dictates. I would say judging by what was said, I would be absolutely shocked if the Sox don't make another move. It did not seem like Hahn views Quintana as a long-term piece towards the rebuild either. I think it's almost a guarantee he gets moved before the season starts. Pretty good listen though, don't let my notes stop anyone from taking 14 minutes to hear it. Thank you!

QUOTE (ChicagoHeel @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 09:14 AM) Guys...I feel like losing Quintana would hurt the most. What is everyone's thoughts on keeping him? Maybe he can be the Ace of the next good Sox team. He and Abreu are definitely my favorite players, but if we get a great return, I would be open to it. I'm sure the organization also feels a special connection with him over Sale, given Quintana's lack of off-field tirades and the fact that they scooped him up from the Yankees' minor league system.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Dec 9, 2016 -> 01:06 AM) Right, but he isn't now. Sickels had him ranked #31 in baseball after the minor league season ended. So now you are talking $38.2M. Using the package I keep harping on.... (And Sickles top 100 rankings) Martes - #19 - $39M Reed - #31 - $38.2M Tucker - #46 - $38.2M Stubbs - NA - Let's just call him $10M? That package right there gives the Sox $125M in surplus value. If Quintana offers $128M in surplus value....well, then I think that's a real fair trade. I'm not a fan of this method of analysis. Prospect rankings are entirely subjective, so attaching a dollar amount to them is only amplifying the opinion of a very small group of people- sometimes just one person, depending on the rankings.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 07:09 PM) I take it then you're not sold on Bregman being a potential star?.....that was my point. To me...he seems like as sure a thing as you'll find in a young player. He'll be a good one I think... I think Bregman has the potential to be great. But he also has the potential to be, well, not great. As highly as I think of him, a 1-1 with Quintana is not something I'd be interested, given that Quintana is a proven ace and Bregman is still a prospect. Of course, having Bregman in a deal would diminish the rest of the return, but I would still like another couple of lower level prospects with him.

QUOTE (Wanne @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 07:04 PM) I would. There will be people who feel we didn't get enough back...but if you get a return of 3 prospects...and 2 of them turn out to be crap...what's the point?!? I'd rather take that risk than take the 1-1 risk.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 06:52 PM) I like Hank Conger. Good with pitchers, solid framer, has pop, switch hitter, no arm though. I only know him for that fight with Odor.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 06:43 PM) Nate Jones has entered a game in the 9th inning and blown a save exactly zero times in his career. /argument

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 09:27 AM) I'm probably overreacting, but I feel like if Hahn deals Quintana and Abreu OR Frazier, this team may not win 55 games. That's a good thing. #TankForBeer #BeerMe #BlowForBeer (Seth Beer, projected #1 2018 draft pick)

QUOTE (chw42 @ Nov 29, 2016 -> 03:29 PM) They're going to do 7S before 8. This happens every year lol. QUOTE (MEANS @ Nov 30, 2016 -> 12:07 PM) no next year will be 10 years since the first iPhone was released so they will be doing a big overhaul and it will be the 8. Yeah, I believe they're calling it the 8 since it will be a major improvement rather than a marginal 'S' improvement. IMO, the iPhone 7 is more of a 6S^2 than a 7

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 28, 2016 -> 10:29 AM) Anything specifically? I've been considering getting an iPhone, but want to make it worth it. It's either that or the Pixel for me. This video sums it up best:

Dan HayesVerified account ‏@CSNHayes Rick Hahn didn't think anything was imminent -- "but still thoroughly engaged, deeply engaged on a number of different fronts." #WhiteSox

Dan HayesVerified account ‏@CSNHayes Rick Hahn didn't think anything was imminent -- "but still thoroughly engaged, deeply engaged on a number of different fronts." #WhiteSox

Oddly quiet this morning. I'm still expecting a deal for us today, regardless of how quiet the Thursday of meetings usually is.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 08:41 AM) For Q, I'd want Martes, Tucker, Perez, and Stubbs. I think a dark horse to watch for Q is Colorado. Have a roster capable of going to the playoffs now, need a TOR starter and maybe some pen help. Anyone think you could do Q & Robertson/Jones for Rodgers/Dahl, Hoffman, Tapia, and Murphy? If we got any of Rodgers, Dahl, Tapia, or Murphy (whether in a package for Quintana, Abreu, Frazier, or a reliever), I'd be elated. Those guys have great potential.

For Q + Frazier, I'd like Martes, Fisher, K. Tucker, and P. Tucker. Maybe add Musgrove or Reed.