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The next market inefficiency...2nd/3rd tier pitching
Whisox05 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 4, 2016 -> 02:02 PM) Fister has 1-2 year offers from multiple clubs. I wonder if the White Sox are one of those clubs I was wondering the same thing. I don't want Latos with his personality problems -
Danks needs to go the NL and play in a pitcher park. He's been homer prone lately. Needs to pitch in a big park
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The next market inefficiency...2nd/3rd tier pitching
Whisox05 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You can count out Edwin Jackson. Close to agreement with marlins -
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/pricing-ale...hree-year-deal/ I'll put this on the correct thread lol
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We marvel at #Dodgers left-handedness, but 2015 #WhiteSox had 116 starts by LHP, most in #MLB since 1983 #Yankees. (h/t STATS LLC) @FS1 https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/683783088388845571
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QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 2, 2016 -> 09:07 PM) There are no requirements. They could offer him one as long as he stays on team for the year. So if that's the case maybe a 1 yr deal which would forfeit the pick this year but recoup the pick next year as long as he plays well and stays with the team the whole year
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QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 2, 2016 -> 06:33 PM) Sucks to give up a pick but Desmond is intriguing. Can't believe he turned down $107 million and had a bad contract year. The question i have is say the Sox sign Desmond to a 1 yr deal would he be eligible to be a qualifying offer free agent again next year if he performs well. really can't find the rules stating what is the requirements. Other idea tho is sign him to a 2 year deal with a opt out after 1st year then I believe for sure can qualify for offer. If you look at kazmirs deal it's for 3 years but can opt out after the first year and I'm pretty sure one of the baseball guys said he can get a qualifying offer again.
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QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 2, 2016 -> 12:48 PM) He doesn't play RF. Neither does Cespedes or Gordon for that matter
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QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 1, 2016 -> 09:27 PM) Does anyone know the relationship between Abreu and Cespedes? Are they friends? I posted a article a while back and Abreu said he would like Cespedes on the team and thinks he would be good for the team.
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@ChuckGarfien why do you think white sox only want to give Cespedes or Gordon a 3 year deal? https://twitter.com/antwanferguson0/status/...072572452388864 Negotiating. And it sounds like no one else has offered anything more. That's where it's at. https://t.co/pDiGODC1mD https://twitter.com/ChuckGarfien/status/683120032080072705
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I'm really not that worried. It's a buyers market right now. More outfielders then teams are in desperate for. There's teams out there with some money to spend but seems everyone is just sitting back waiting for the market to fall to them. Orioles are more interested in Davis and have reports that they won't touch a really high amount for Cespedes. Royals are the other really team on gordon with maybe the cards laying back. Hot stove on mlb said that giants could be out there but said maybe they might be better with fowler. Fowler could bring the cf defense and play LF then slide over to cf when pagan leaves next year. Sox are really ones to be fully linked to the outfielders recently. Have to imagine they get one.
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I could see the Sox only wanting to do the 3 year deal for gordon. The other 2 I could see them go to a 4 or 5 year deal which was reported before that Sox were prefering a 4 or 5 deal. I think since supposedly the Sox were wanting gordon first that this is a ploy to get him for a 3 year deal maybe. But has to be pretty good chance Sox gets one of the 2 since they keep getting linked to them and only seems to be the team getting fully linked to them
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QUOTE (SoCalSox @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 07:07 PM) @PatrickHoward50 "Hearing talks broke down because Yoenis Cespedes wants a 6-year deal, while White Sox only want to offer 5. Upton out of picture. (Pt. 1)." "White Sox still prefer Cespedes, may circle back to Alex Gordon if K.C. offer is low. White Sox willing to add 5th year to Gordon contract." ...So, I think that says all it does needs to about that whole saga in terms of his tweets last night. I think he's just going off of ideas after new stuff came out from National writers
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@ChiSoxraBBit White Sox will not go over $100 million -- just a guess https://twitter.com/scottmerkin/status/681912628512436227 This is what that actually tweet said.
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http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/white-sox/...breus-attention Abreu sees Cespedes as a good fit
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QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 30, 2015 -> 01:04 PM) This is from someone in a position to get info but I don't know if I can trust. The two numbers he threw out were 5/108 and 6/125. Take with whatever amount of salt you like. Scott Merkin told me the Sox won't go over 100 million. Didn't Merkin say that Sox won't go over 100 million as being just a guess
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Source: #WhiteSox want deal to be done so Hahn is ready to move on to other needs RHP and SS https://twitter.com/NickyMitch93/status/682038738965426178 More from this guy again
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#WhiteSox haven't signed anyone to 9-figure deal but tried w/ Tanaka. Rick Hahn said same $ was poss. in future. https://t.co/nc5dep7LZD https://twitter.com/CSNHayes/status/682036719768748032 Kinda weird hayes pops up with this after all this smoke going on today.
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Source: #WhiteSox closing in on a outfielder Cespedes is their favorite don't want to give up a pick but don't count out Gordon just yet https://twitter.com/NickyMitch93/status/682036364066471936 Seen alot of stuff coming from this guy on Sox today
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QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 08:22 PM) @barstoolWSD No bulls***, I have it on very good authority that the White Sox and Yo are "close" This guy actually has some credibility. @PatrickHoward50 I was just told 6/125 https://twitter.com/barstoolWSD/status/682022766078504961
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QUOTE (Sockin @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 07:59 PM) More smoke, second person claiming Cespedes will sign with the Sox. @rickslat123 Multiple sources: Yoenis Cespedes @ynscspds has told White Sox he will sign with them. Deal worth north of 110 million. #mlb https://twitter.com/rickslat123/status/682015844033937408 Fake Ken Rosenthal said sox get Cespedes too lol. So there 3 peeps
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http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/26035...unning-suitors#
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Just saying stay away from the fake Ken Rosenthal twitter account
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QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 02:07 PM) This is not true, rosenthal, nightengale, heyman dont name who their sources are. If anyone starts naming their sources, then they dont have sources anymore. Apparently didnt fully read what I said. I said you can name the source or if you can't or don't want just say the word source. Yes they all have used the word source when they break information
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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 29, 2015 -> 01:55 PM) It works two ways. A lot of information from insiders is totally made up in a way that they hope if it gets out will be beneficial to the team. Rabbit doesn't have 2 million followers, and isn't trying to be the next Ken Rosenthal, so you have to figure he isn't making stuff up. You make enough up that makes sense, something is bound to come true, and you get your props for being first. And he doesn't have the following on Twitter or Soxtalk that it could make a difference by him getting fed misinformation. Teams and agents use these guys to their advantage all the time. Heyman is Boras' puppet. I have a friend of a friend who is a great source, however, I don't have much access. 10 years ago, I found out KW's target was Tim Hudson of Oakland. I was so excited, I put it on this site. 20 minutes later, Hudson gets traded to Atlanta. I got torched as a phony. There was a poster named steff who supposedly had inside connections and she blasted my post as total BS , the Sox would never deal with Oakland because of Moneyball...I was vindicated when KW said no one tried harder to acquire one of the then Big 3 than him. Thats why you got to say what source it's from or if you can't say exactly who then just say info is from a source. Saying it that way tries to protect your credibility and can say well the source was wrong. If you notice alot of the bigger writers state source or other outlets to cover their butts.
