Bob Sacamano

Just read an article on MSN saying Dodgers are taking a different approach this season and willing to trade top prospects for front line guys. Article specifically mentions Sale and Quintana. Edit: actually can't find it now but when I do I will re-post. 2nd edit: posted above my post.

Marlins are looking for lefthanded relief help. Jennings or Duke?

Probably worth reminding people that Lawrie only has a year of control left. Edit: if you decide to go for a rebuild and hold onto him and trade Frazier, I guess he could be your 3B next year (if they are still rebuilding that is).

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 07:23 AM) What exactly is wrong with a 26 year old 2B who can hit you 50+ extra base hits, play solid defense, swipe a few bags and has about a league average bat overall? I'm guessing he's referring to his approach at the plate or something.

QUOTE (FT35 @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 07:14 AM) Do we really think if we unload a bunch of players for prospects, that the prospects will flourish in our system--a system where position players go to die?! Again...I'd love a good rebuild, but I just have serious doubts that our organization would know what to do with all the talent coming back. I think it would be a shock to the way things work. Quite honestly, with our management philosophy, prospects are only good if you can trade them for MLB pieces you need. I'm not sure we have the people to develop 6 of the top 50 prospects in MiLB. Even if they are MLB ready and start all the way up with us, we have a coaching staff who has worked with a vet-heavy group of guys as long as they have been here. Still think if you infuse your minor (and major) league system with some of the top prospects in the game, you better bring in the people who are known for developing these players or they will wind up to be busts. Anyone watch the movie Miracle? The US vs the Soviets in the Miracle on Ice game? Remember when the Russian coach didn't pull his goalie for the extra attacker when they were down a goal late in the game? US Coach, Herb Brooks leaned over and told his assistant coach that the reason why is because they have never been TRAILING a game late enough to know to pull their goalie so he didn't know to do that? THAT is how I view a rebuild for our team! WE would miss so many obvious developmental opportunities simply because our organization doesn't develop young talent, we trade it. I'm a little skeptical of it personally but I just want them to pick a lane and stay in it for a few years. No half ass quick rebuild like 2013 and if you're going to compete, be willing to spend more. I think they will try to compete next year though as the third year of the "3 year plan" and if next year looks more like this year, they'll make some serious changes.

QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 07:02 AM) Exactly like Lester, Zobrist, Montero, Lackey, Ross, etc. Well they spent around the young guys that would stick when it was time to compete. Still kinda loaded in the minors. Edit: mostly referring to the rebuild. They did a great job of adding young talent.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 22, 2016 -> 12:47 AM) The Sox are f***ed if they look to the Cubs as an example of what they can do. Bringing in a plethora of young talent? Yeah terrible idea.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 10:33 PM) If the Sox are truly looking at tearing down, the only meaning left to this season is evaluation of everyone who has long term value. Who's lined up to face the Cubs? Gonzalez, Shields and Turner first 3 games? Woof.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 08:43 PM) I was at the sox tigers game where Austin Jackson was pulled out in the middle of the inning. It was crazy. I was at the game Miguel Olivo got traded mid-game. Hit a 3 run bomb that day against the Cubs.

Saladino in for Lawrie #hugwatch

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 05:14 PM) Not the worst idea I've heard, but I'm sure he would hate it. If they do a complete tear down, he's someone that should be available also. Not yet. Wait a couple years until he's more developed and has multiple years of control. And he's a Boras client so basically no chance at team friendly extension.

They're waiting on pitching til off-season since free agency is weak.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 03:57 PM) A Dodgers friend of mine suggested Eaton for Pederson straight up. What do you guys think? I'd say no. I'd say no as well.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 01:47 PM) The Cubs have earned it. We can, too but we have to start from the bottom, which is hard. I'm willing to wait out a rebuild. I've lost so much interest in the season the past week.

So much smoke.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 01:10 PM) At this rate Jerry will be dead by the time the Sox actually compete anyway. He's pretty old so it's possible.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 01:01 PM) Man the White Sox are leaking all sorts of s*** today Yeah kind of weird.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 12:58 PM) I am at the point to that I dont care who they trade as long as they have a clear and concise plan. They have been on the fence for how long now? Have a plan that builds long term health of the organization and stick with it. This is how I feel.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 01:02 PM) Another source says the #WhiteSox were offered a "king's ransom" for Sale in the last 48 hours and responded with a flat "no." Man I want to know what that is.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 12:54 PM) I would hold Rodon as well, but not because I am opposed to trading him, just because he isn't yet worth what he should be. Bingo. Wait til he develops into a front of the rotation arm. And he's a Boras client so trading him in a couple years when he still has 2-3 years of control would probably be max value.

QUOTE (FT35 @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 12:51 PM) OK...let's be realistic...you can't just trade everyone. Everyone who is saying Rodon, Anderson and Fulmer are no's...everyone else is gone. You know how long it would take to work out a trade for everyone!?!? You can't just keep 3 young, unproven players and get rid of everyone else. No one does that and we aren't THAT bad. Some of these are obvious but often overlooked by posters here! Here are some things to consider in a rebuild: 1. You have to keep a vet. For the stability of an organization, you need some sort of constant--a Frank Thomas/Paul Konerko-type player that exemplifies an organization, deals with the new players and serves as an ambassador for the team if you will. What vet defines White Sox baseball and its future? Possibilities include Frazier, Sale, Q, Abreu, Eaton. Personally, my vote would be Sale because of his value/contract. 2. You can't think you're rebuilding without changing managers. A true re-build needs a new philosophy FIRST--then the search begins for baseball players who fit that philosophy. 3. Don't just replace someone to replace them. Figure out what players you currently have that fit that new philosophy and lock them up. Nothing is worse than trading Adam Eaton in a fire sale, then bringing in a new manager who says "we need an Adam Eaton-type player." Yeah I'd probably keep Eaton, Abreu, Sale and Quintana around for now as well unless we get blown away with an offer. They could be moved at a later point if need be since they are signed for a while.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 12:05 PM) Heyman reporting Fulmer, Frazier, Robertson top Sox trading chips. I can't see a reason to move Fulmer over Sale, Q if we're selling. Probably means Fulmer if we're buying, other 2 if selling.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 21, 2016 -> 11:27 AM) http://www.todaysknuckleball.com/al/chicag...dering-selling/ Says sox getting calls on Robertson, eaton and others I'd definitely listen on Robertson. Look at what Giles and Kimbrel brought back in the off-season.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 20, 2016 -> 01:49 PM) I'd add Jennings too. MiGo is the guy you trade for a younger starter down on his luck that you think you can turn around to strike gold for. *has flashbacks of Feldman for Arrieta*

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jul 19, 2016 -> 07:43 PM) I'm worried we're going to run off 5 wins in a row and have Hahn and KW rethink the need to sell! Rethink? You think they're thinking about selling? That is one thought not even close to in their brains.